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Reverse UNO
NixOS* but yes
Both. desktop is arch based, server is Debian.
You slut, you!
That’s all it takes to be a distro slut!?
What the heck am I then?
%brl list -v artix bedrock ceres -> devuan-ceres devuan -> devuan-ceres devuan-ceres devuan-ceres-new devuan-chimaera devuan-testing -> devuan-chimaera devuan-unstable -> devuan-ceres exherbo fartix fentoo fexherbo garyos gentoo gentoostudio goblin gs -> gentoostudio hijacked -> gentoo init -> gentoo jentoo kentoo kentwo local -> gentoostudio marklar oasis pclinuxos space suckless tentoo tudio -> gentoostudio ubuntu void void-kdeAnd that’s just one of my computers.
[… it’s starting to make sense, thinking about one thing I made, I called wminizer]
I suggest a regimen of cold showers and coarse towels.
But like with glasses or something.
What the heck am I then?
A container slut.
What the heck am I then?
A container slut.
???
But… there are zero containers on any of my systems.
Actually, looking at that list again, I see I’ve neglected upgrading on that computer for longer than I realised… chimaera as testing? *checks site*, yeah that’s “Chimaera 4.0 has moved to oldoldstable status.”. That’s like 4 versions old. XD
Are you waiting for an invitation?
Oooh yeah, baby, let’s debug the networking stack together!
Don’t be silly,
chmod o-wyour$WILLY!Phew! For a split second I misred that as
chmod o+w.
Yep. “Depends on the use case” is a solid answer.
🥵 yeah talk dirty to me.
My iptables INPUT chain default policy is set to ACCEPT.
I run apt upgrade before apt update.
This is the way! Everything is based on Arch, Debian or Fedora anyway so you might as well stick to what is well known and supported.
angry Gentoo and NixOS noises
well known and supported 🤪
From my understanding NixOS and Gentoo is “support it yourself”. I haven’t tried either of them so I could be completely wrong about that.
It’s pretty much the same thing as everywhere, you have a bunch of lovely people who package and test things, nothing too weird. What you are describing is LFS.
I was under the impression that you had to compile everything yourself on Gentoo and in Nix that you have to mess with a config to do everything and anything.
Maybe I should try them both to see what the fuzz is about.
Speaking about Gentoo, you don’t “have to” compile everything, but let’s just say it’s strongly encouraged. Most of the compilation is automated though, think AUR on steroids. If you don’t want to touch anything, you can go with defaults for all the software and you’ll get basically what you get on any other distro.
The thing is, though, if you are not being a little funny with your software, why the hell are you running Gentoo? So, it’s entirely optional, but it’s the main reason one would use Gentoo, otherwise you get a stock standard system with stupidly long updates.
I can’t speak for Nix, though, I haven’t touched it myself, but from what I know from those around me running it, it’s pretty much the same thing, unless you want something cool, you don’t have to suffer.
Okey thank you so much for the information! I can see the appeal. More freedom and customization. I am all for it.
But for my use cases I think Arch is enough. It strikes a nice balance with official packages and the AUR and I love that you get to choose all of the packages you want to have installed.
How is Nix with software support these days?
There is another reply to this comment where I said I’m not using it. If you are interested in something specific why not just go type the package name into their repository search thingy?
Slackware users in shambles!
uss babe uss
“Debian or Arch?”
Get out you corporate sellout!
It’s the best of both worlds
spoiler
RPMs are better than DEBs
I’m fine with .ebuild and .xbps, thnx.
Yeah I get some good RPMs on my 2001 Honda Civic.
ubuntu because my brain is so small
the name comes from the Bantu word “ubuntu” which loosely translated means, “debian is too hard”
Manjaro.
Throws the table
Why? I really enjoyed Mankato while slowly breaking it (Arch is just not for people like me)
My wife uses Debian, but I love her anyway. ❤️
Debian in the kitchen and Arch in the bedroom
Debian in the kitchen
You only buy pre-made food?
That’s where Gentoo belongs, or LFS if you don’t like following recipes.I buy ingredients, not seeds and animals.
Only buy traditional food with a best before date at least 3 years in the future.
In bedroom a new bed every other day with a lot of bed bugs.
don’t kink share
Hence why so many of us are gay for each other.
I’m all for touching as long as we don’t sudo
fuck. um, what if i sudo while you rm rf
I thought it was because we’re all femboys and trans catgirls.
Nah I’m just a boring old homo
“Arch or Debian?”
“TempleOS, you heathen!”
And then I pushed him over
~And then he kissed me~
What happens when a zealot meets a more zealous zealot
“Zealot” is relative to where you currently are. Mint -> Debian -> Arch -> FreeBSD -> OpenBSD -> Plan 9 -> TempleOS
Then straight back to Mint! Full circle, bell curve meme style.
That’s actually what I’ve seen a lot! After a few years of tinkering with your system, the idea of something stable and polished is very appealing, so you can focus on getting things done.
I run Arch on my personal machine and Debian on my server and honestly Debian gives me more issues.
It doesn’t like zfs and Nvidia drivers are always a fight. Debian is still good though if all you want to run is a web server forever.
She’s a Hannah Montana girl.
So… Debian then? Hannah Montana Linux has historically been a kubuntu reskin
There’s a Hannah Montana Linux? Wild.
There was a while ago and then it was recently revived
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Both.
Debian for anything that has to run unattended for a long time without requiring much care. Arch for the desktop.
Ubuntu Server LTS on my first-ever server. I’mma green rook at this. I’m amazed at how quickly and easily Casa was to get up and running on an old laptop.
I still got a long ways to go before I can try Debian for a server.
Debian is just Ubuntu without all the annoying parts.
While I agree about the annoying Ubuntu parts, Ubuntu Server LTS does seem to ditch those annoying parts also. Besides, I’m running CasaOS over the top. So I haven’t needed to deal with Ubuntu directly after setup. And hopefully, it stays that way until that old laptop dies.
There were still plenty of annoying parts left when I ditched Ubuntu Server as my default server OS for plain Debian. In fact, increasing annoyances was one of the reason I made the switch. This was around 2018 or so, during the 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS switch, and I haven’t looked back. I’m quite happy with Debian 13 that’s currently powering my VMs.
Fair game not wanting to change a running setup of course, but do yourself a favor and look into Debian the next time you’re doing a new install of something.
Oh, I’ve run Debian a number of times over the years. I have 2 issues with it, I want newer software and I’m just not into going to the work needed to get the things I want running and still being easy to maintain. I’ve also spent years running Ubuntu off and on also.
Ubuntu Server with CasaOS was fast and easy to setup. Maybe 15 minutes to get he basic file server I want. And honestly, the first set of setup instructions for my repurposed laptop server that actually made sense as I read through them was for Ubuntu. So, Ubuntu it is - at least for now. Perhaps I might switch to Fedora at some point.
I want newer software and I’m just not into going to the work needed to get the things I want running and still being easy to maintain
I don’t really get the “newer software” argument … they just leapfrog each other every year or so, if you stick to LTS versions. For example, when Trixie came out it was more up-to-date than Noble Numbat (24.04 LTS), and then Resolute Racoon (26.04 LTS) leapfrogged Trixie again, and next year Forky will leapfrog Resolute Racoon.
Also, with Debian, if the stable release is getting a bit stale, you always have the option to start off with Debian Testing, and get something that’s near bleeding edge up-to-date, and then follow testing until the next stable release and then stay on stable.
Ubuntu Server with CasaOS was fast and easy to setup. Maybe 15 minutes to get he basic file server I want
Never used CasaOS, but how would the setup process be any different on Debian? From an admin perspective, they’re nearly identical …
I had a quick glance at the CasaOS getting started page, and not only does Debian have official support but it’s recommended over Ubuntu, and the installation instructions appear to be exactly the same.
To me it just sounds like you’re a little bit stuck in your ways.
I’ve used Debian and I’m just not a fan. It’s doubtful that will ever change.
To me it sounds like you just want to be right about what’s “better”. I never said I would run Ubuntu server forever. It’s just where I started. It works and does all I need it to do right now. If I decide I need something different, I will find something different at that time. Until then, Ubuntu is working just fine.
Her: it depends on who’s asking and their usecase
- Pls marry me (pls)
Linus would be out… He uses Fedora
He’s also married.
Of course he is. No woman can resist a guy who uses Fedora
She went for him in late 1993:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
Linus Torvalds is married to Tove Torvalds (née Monni), a six-time Finnish national karate champion, whom he met in late 1993. He was running introductory computer laboratory exercises for students and instructed the course attendees to send him an e-mail as a test, to which Tove responded with an e-mail asking for a date.
Fedora won’t have been around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux
Fedora Linux[10] is a Linux distribution developed by the Fedora Project. It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project.
It looks like there were Linux distributions at the time, but they were very early:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution
Early distributions included:
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Torvalds’ “Boot-Root” images, from v0.95a onwards “Root” was maintained by Jim Winstead Jr., the aforementioned disk image pair with the kernel and the absolute minimal tools to get started (0.10: 4 November 1991)[12][13][14][15]
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MCC Interim Linux (3 March 1992)[16]
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TAMU Linux, based on MCC with simpler installation and X11 (14 July 1992)[17]
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Softlanding Linux System (SLS) which included the X Window System and was the most comprehensive distribution for a short time (15 August 1992)[18]
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H.J. Lu’s “bootable rootdisks” (23 September 1992),[19][20] and “Linux Base System” (5 October 1992)[21][22]
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Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X, a commercial distribution (alpha: 8 December 1992)
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The two oldest, still active distribution projects started in 1993. The SLS distribution was not well maintained, so in July 1993 a new SLS-based distribution, Slackware, was released by Patrick Volkerding.[23] Also dissatisfied with SLS, Ian Murdock set to create a free distribution by founding Debian in August 1993, with first public BETA released in January 1994 and first stable version in June 1996.[24][25]
I think that there are two possible takeaways from this:
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Not clear what distro was used — if any — but if it was, it won’t have been a presently existing one. It’s possible that he was just rolling his own setup, not using a distro at all.
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Linus’s date with Tove derived from an email exchange. What ninja chicks look for in a guy is possibly an email client, not a Linux distribution at all. It sounds like Linus was probably using Pine at the time (though someone could go dig up mail headers from old emails to check).
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M’linux
“Arch or Debian”
“Slackware”
“Marry me”
“Ubuntu.”
“NEXT!!!”
Slack was my first nix exposure professionally, talk about the deep end
openSUSE.
Im still surprised that opensuse still exists. We had to give it a try for networking classes back in ~2007 and it was very server oriented and totally didnt have a desktop feel.
That was almost 20 years ago. It is nothing like that anymore I would say. Some things are still more complicated to configure but then, other things just work that don’t work for example on my other system that runs pop-os, in general openSUSE is just as easy to install as any user friendly distro. And among the rolling release distros, openSUSE Tumbleweed is probably the most stable of them all.
opi is a great tool, even when just looking for applications in the regular repository. But then you can also very easily access the open build service with it as well.