Well, that’s pretty exciting. My PS5 is already on the latest firmware though lol
Can we not, like… Factory reset these things to roll back to whatever was installed when it was purchased? 🤔
Most consoles, if not all, have electronic fuses that are embedded inside chips that they intentionally blow out with each firmware update that prevent them from rolling back to older versions.
lmao
Are you serious? Wtf
Thats called a downgrade attack and is explicitly blocked by most modern security models that are not a PC.
That’s insane
Is it?
As a malicious actor or red-team player, I would want to get you on as old of an OS as I could in order to exploit a wider range of CVEs. Or in most cases, one would be hunting for a specific set of CVEs. Once I’ve got you on the version I want, I can then perform other attacks and ensure that they run.
The iPhone, many Android phones, some network equipment, and game consoles all have eFuses that burn when you perform an update, and the specific number or pattern they burn in is used to determine the lowest OS version your device is allowed to be on in order to stop this from happening.
I mean, my phone has all sorts of private and confidential information and is regularly in hostile environments where attackers might get physical access to it. Kinda want the best, most hardened security posture.
My Playstation sits in my living room and has my gaming history and access to my games…
It could also have your credit card info if you’ve set it up for the store. Which I imagine most people do, since many games don’t even get physical copies made anymore.
Ive worked with ecommerce enough to not store my card anywhere. Also pretty sure they’d store it in the cloud so could max it out in the store and I could claim the fraud.
But if your in my living room thinking, I’m going to sit down and hack his Playstation to get his credit card… Don’t know man, seems there’s better plans.
It is indeed, such is the state of the industry
This, this is why my PS5 has been offline and waiting for hacks’
This is not even close to the reason that my PS5 has been offline, but it’s super neat and probably means we’re close to piracy.
Well the real reason is I built a PC and gave Sony the finger for jacking the price of premium. Again.
You and I are much alike, kinsman.
If I install Linux on a PS5, can I use the Blu-ray drive as a PC optical drive to rip DVD’s and shit?
I doubt it, but if so, maybe you can do UHD Blu-Rays too, since the PS5 can handle those.
Based on this list, it looks like you have to be sitting on a 2022 or earlier non-updated PS5 to have a chance at the 4.51 or lower firmware to use this. A chance it’ll open up to other firmwares and as said maybe there’s a limited functionality 5.xx exploit on the horizon, but just a bit of reality before you get too excited.
Didn’t the PS5 boot signing keys leak recently? The word when that happened was that it blew PS5 modding wide open in a way that couldn’t be closed without new hardware, though I guess publishing anything that used Sony’s key would have their lawyers after you real quick.
I wonder what would happen if people started mass posting the key like they did with the DVD DRM keys back in the day, though I’m sure the industry would be much more aggro these days
Ooh, that might mean that I can pick up a Pro down the line and mod that too.
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Every time I think I know something.
The ps5 is much closer to a traditional PC than the PS3 which was a totally different design. There’s enough different with how the PS5 was designed that it isn’t a traditional PC but Linux is so versatile it can pretty much bridge that gap.
Which has me wondering if a PS5 is the cheapest desktop out there right now.
Well gotta turn off auto updates immediately.
Edit: by immediately I mean years ago, apparently.
Good thing mine has been unplugged ever since I realized a docked steam deck paired with ps5 controllers was a way better experience than using the PS5 anyway
Ah yes games meant to play 720 looks great on a 4k tv…
Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast
Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”.
I personally think there’s a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift.
Somewhat related to that, I’d also say there’s merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for ‘better’ is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market’s desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics.
When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience.
But that’s just my 2 cents.
This is the way.
Why are you being booed? You make a point.
Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter.
A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine.
Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC
It’s not better, it’s just different
… yes?
My partner has her PS4 plugged into our OLED 4K TV, and it looks great
And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine.
The PS5 costs lots of money, so it’s objectively worse
Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true.
The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic.
Compared to a second hand PS4, which is what I was talking about.
Hell, I think my Xbox 360 has good graphics considering I got it out of a dumpster
Fwiw, im also not an idiot. You are correct.
If it was on, I assume it is already updated to 5.x which patched the vulnerability. But if it is 4.x then you’re in luck.
I wonder how it compares to the steam machine.
Well, you can get the hardware now for one.
Would be an interesting comparison once it does release though. Especially for a price/performance comparison now that Sony increased PS5 pricing.
I can’t wait for bringus studios to release a video where he games on a PS5.
He essentially did. He did that one build with one of those ps5 reject boards. Based off that I assumed the ps5 could run standard Linux but I haven’t cared about consoles and modding in a very long time.
If the jailbreak method ever works on whatever the current firmware is, I’ll probably go ahead and do it to mine.
With hardware prices being what they are is this actually a good deal?
I would personally try to go for a BC-250 blade setup, less performance but roughly half the cost of a secondhand ps5 (in Aus at least) and still capable of modern gaming
I suppose that also depends on time invested tinkering and sourcing components for the BC-250 like an ssd, enclosure and psu
Fml, my ps5 is up to date. Maybe I can try and buy an old one and sell mine.
Is it cost effective?
If you can pick up a second-hand PS5, possibly. Obviously is if you already own one and wanna Proton it.
Never bought a PS5, and def don’t plan on ever buying a console ever again. Long live emulators! Fuck you nintendo!!!
Isn’t the PS5 already a fully functional gaming computer?
To access most of the internet you must pay a subscription. Plus the games you buy on the ps5 can’t be put on any other device.
I know this because I bought baldurs gate and Helldiver’s, and had to purchase them again on steam.
A ps5 and most consoles are a sunk-cost-fallacy machine.
The fact that steam games are cross platform is because you buy a license. Very rarely a cd-rom would have Mac and Windows in one, but in that regard desktops were mostly like consoles not so long ago.
You always only buy a license. Get a crack, then you own the game.
True but you can do that for consoles too (PS5 not yet), and this issue isn’t what makes them not a full PC.
The hardware is sold under value, by having the games more expensive. And if you’ve got the console, you’re locked in, don’t have a choice.
Just like printers, actually.
PSN required to play online games. Ongoing subscription, not cheap. So no, not fully functional, except as a pickpocket.
Mindblown.