• nadram@lemmy.world
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    Reminds me of Google glass or whatever it was called. It’s not that people aren’t ready, it’s just a bad idea

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          I used to support the Glass team at Google. I felt so bad watching them destroy the team after Sergey influence plummeted after he was caught cheating. They just slowly moved everyone to different projects. They had super stars on that team.

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      It’s annoying how tech bros phrase products and services so that you don’t get to say no, it’s something like not right now or people aren’t ready. Lots of stuff from pop ups for OneDrive in windows to press releases about Google glass. It’s fascist.

      No your product or service is unwanted and no means no.

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      15 days ago

      True AR? Absolutely not a bad idea, are you kidding me?

      Take out the ability to record stealthily and they’re a great idea. Overlay art on walls, place monitors in your real space, do work on a laptop with the screen off, put directions in the actual world so you’re not looking at a screen, and that just what I can think of off the top of my head.

      Don’t let the tech conglomerates ruin an amazing tech concept.

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          Their form factor still isn’t great from what I understand. The tech isn’t properly caught up to the idea. But once it has, it’s going to be a paradigm shift in the way we interact with the digital world similar to the smart phone.

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          Vision Pro is as close as we have come, and it is still overpriced, ugly, uncomfortable, and incapable of most basic AR tasks. It can’t identify and track objects in real time, which is the lowest bar for functional AR.

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      For consumers yes, but an AR glasses for technical workers that (for example with an electrician), you could mark and highlight cables in AR that you are working on/ignoring or being able to auto search and send IC identifications on reverse engineering a PCB would be genuinely useful.

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      Bad enough that Tesla’s are mobile surveillance nodes. Definitely don’t need cameras going indoors everywhere too.

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      15 days ago

      By “not ready,” they mean, “not complacent enough.” Fuck the tech bros.

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      i remember that, the first news of it was it was being used to WATCH PORN. and then i saw a person in a subway once with it, it looks silly and kinda perverty.

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          Attaching to this to remind everyone that these cameras have sensors to scrape rfid, nfc, tpms, Bluetooth, and wifi ssids as well. They’re not ‘license plate readers’. They’re full suite surveillance systems that’ll capture every ID passing by. Your list of remembered wifi connections in your phone is a trackable fingerprint, and unless you take steps, it’s being broadcast every time you turn on wifi.

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            Your phone is not broadcasting a list of WiFi networks it wants to connect to. That’s not how it works at all.

            It is periodically (couple of times a second probably) checking the available SSIDs to see if there is one that matches a remembered network on it’s list.

            It would be horribly insecure to have a device broadcasting the name of a network that it would actively try to connect to.

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          Thats what i keep hearing. I bet they have cameras and maybe sim cards too. Along with a spiffy solar panel.

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      Unfortunately, this has a habit of becoming a self-reinforcing need for authoritarian policing.

      “Flock camera destruction” becomes the rationale for more cameras and more cops and more draconian punishments. And this cycle continues so long as the public continues to send up corporate shills and industry hacks to fill the municipal offices.

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        Oh good to know. I guess we’ll just have to stick with the alternative. Do nothing and watch it happen anyway.

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          No, you have to go after the local politicians who keep approving these systems. Electorally of course, you psychos. Your local city council rep is going to feel much more pressure from an angry letter from a voter than your senator would.

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              They will sue you for harassment. Keep in mind that when it’s done to them, it’s “different”.

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            Electorally of course, you psychos.

            Or not, if push really comes to shove.

            But you do have to recognize that you can’t just break the fascade of the machine to get it to stop working.

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              This is probably one of the few issues you could really get grass roots bipartisan support on these days. It would have to be marketed right though. Maybe something like “DEI cameras”, or “6G posts”.

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              Ignore the vote! If we don’t vote, it delegitimizes the election and then the local government will be forced to ignore everyone that stayed home and still do the awful thing anyway because the winner is an open fascist.

              Much better alternative!

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              Yes? The reason shit you don’t like happens is because you refuse to a participate, you fucking dunce.

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          Or you could try to make ACTUAL change, instead of throwing temper tantrums like a child and encouraging others to get themselves in legal trouble that would affect the rest of their lives.

          How many have you destroyed? Let me guess. Zero. Another internet tough guy who others to take the hit.

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      Sure, but this is an international thing, Flock is US only. And it’s completely expected to see comments about something US specific written like it’s a global thing (or that nothing outside the US exists) because that’s fucking always the case.
      The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.

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        The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.

        Your comment says way more about you than you comprehend and your assumptions about all Americans are laughable. Having a bad day, are we? Maybe you should call your mum.

        You should fly yourself and your asshole attitude back to Reddit, find the rest of your miserable flock and claim victory, that is if they don’t ignore your sorry ass there too.

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    “I saw all these comments about if you wear those glasses you’re basically a predator or a creep, and I was like, ‘Oh, maybe it’s not a good idea to have those,’” said Kujawa. "I didn’t really think that through all the way… there are a lot of times where it’s not appropriate to wear cameras on your face."

    Words to live by.

    CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.

    Sure, Jan.

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      CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.

      Just a regular reminder that facebook has a massive child sex material trade problem, that they’ve actively done nothing to prevent, but they have called police on reporters reporting on it.

      So Zuckerberg wanting his creepnology on every face, in every bathroom, hospital, etc, while he gets a copy of every video, is very much in character

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        Well, yeah. It starts with people sharing “just family photos,” and the monsters make it a cesspool.

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          So…

          I inherited my grandmother’s house. I’m a heterosexual bachelor, I don’t give a shit about decoration, so the automotive tools and 3D printing detritus, house cat, and electronics shit from about waist down are mine, the artwork and curtains and shit at chest level and above are still my grandmother’s.

          Included in this is one of those “one large frame full of a bunch of individual family photos” things that ceased to be manufactured during Dubya’s first term. In it is a picture of a bunch of relatives of mine hanging out in a back yard, the last of whom died last month, a black and white photo of my father when he was 7, a dageurrotype of my great grandfather’s first wedding…

          And a polaroid of me, age 2, scrote ass naked, riding Bradley. Who the fuck is Bradley. So, while I was a fetus, my family went to a state fair. My father decided to stop at the carnie section to play ring toss. My hilariously pregnant 5 foot tall mother wanted to play too. So Dad gave her a fistful of rings. And she got one. As my dad tells it, the second my mama cheered, that carnie took the rest of those rings from my father, chucked them in a different, empty basket presumably to inspect them to make sure they are in fact smaller than the neck of the bottles, and begrudgingly told her to pick out one of the hilariously huge stuffed animals on display, and she picked a life-size tiger. On the way back out of the fair, my family walked past a National guard exhibit, including several tanks and armored vehicles. My grandmother, the idiot that decided to carpet my bathroom, noticed the sign next to a particularly large tank-like machine said “Bradley Fighting Vehicle” and she said “Oh how cute, they named it.” And lo the 6 foot long polyester tiger was named Bradley.

          Three years later, I got out of a bath tub, and before some toddler sized tighty-whiteys happened I mounted that very tiger like a horse, which amused my father enough to go get the family Instamatic. My grandmother ended up owning the resulting photograph, time makes corpses of us all, I inherited my grandmother’s estate to include a 37 year old picture of my own dick.

          So when I build my drinks cabinet intended to go on that wall, and pull down that photo collage and give it to my parents, one of whom was the photographer of several of those family photos, am I going to be arrested for trafficking child porn?

          Probably, in Trump’s America.

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            You write well. Also, is it illegal to possess a naked picture of oneself as a child?

            I guess it’s about the risk of someone viewing it sexually.

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              No, naked photographs of children are not illegal in that context

              Heard of a guy with pictures of his kid in the bath. Police investigated and once they realised it was his own kid, no further action.

              Might vary based on where you live of course.

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                on the flip side, theres the story of the man who, during the height of covid, had his child develop a bad rash in their diaper area

                Doctors requested photos for diagnosis.

                Google detected the photo, and called the police on him, calling him a child predator and CSAM producer.

                Police said it was a innocent, medically necessary photo.

                Doctor said it was an innocent, medically necessary photo.

                Google said, no, fuck you, we don’t care what the authorities say, you are a child fucking pervert, and we can prove it, and then pointing to a video from 6 months earlier of the mother laying on bed, i think after a bath/shower, unclothed…with the baby on her chest.A completely harmless, beautiful mother/child moment… but google perved out on it so hard they said he and his wife were the pedophiles.

                and proceeded to delete his phone number, emails, photos, and everything else he had tied to google.

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                  So it wasn’t illegal. Along with a holy fucking shit load of reasons to never touch google products.

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                Correct me if I’m wrong but the key to any good long text/speech is having as many interesting visual descriptions as possible. Emphasis on interesting.

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                  See? Imagery. And also, buy a bottle of bourbon and a bottle of rye with the excuse of doing A-B comparisons of Old Fashioned cocktails, drink like 6 and come away with the opinion that your favorite between the two is Luxardo cherries.

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        Yeah having to let the battery die on a patient’s prescription glasses that they needed to like. Not fall down while walking. Was not a fun couple of shifts.

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        If they didn’t have a camera they’d be pointless, there’s really no reason to have a screen on your face if it wasn’t to help AR the world.

        Which is why it’s going to need an extremely valid reason to use them aside from being a creeper.

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          Not true. I’ve had my eye on a pair for awhile that has no camera, only microphone, but has a HUD. Having navigation, an irl minimap, without having to keep your phone out is nice and has some actual positive safety implications. Also, this might mean less to Americans, but as someone living in Europe, having in line translation is really, really cool. Could almost sell it on that alone. I’ve heard some deaf folks are also using it to help understand people by augmenting their lip reading (which usually doesn’t get all of the information across by itself) with summaries that the mic picked up.

          I’ve only held off because the pair I was looking at seem like it isn’t quite there yet in reliability, but there are definitely some pretty big use cases I can think of. I would 100% get some of these without a camera.

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            Wondering how we’re doing on echolocation or if sensors that are less invasive but still useful might be tolerated in public. The device might identify objects generically… Maybe there’s some middleground between useful and perverted.

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          there’s really no reason to have a screen on your face

          Look around. People have a screen on their face 24/7. Currently they need their hand to hold it there.

          Maybe you mean there is no need for a camera on your face. That I agree with.

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          Lidar, rather than a camera. Allows it to create a 3d model of what’s in front of it without being able to take pictures itself

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          So there are certainly some valid use cases. They could be useful for surgeries, engineering design work, surveying, etc. None of these have you wearing them all the time or in social areas through. It’s a niche product they need to focus on those markets and stop trying to force mass adoption. It’s the same as AI.

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      I live next to a beach. I don’t think I will ever visit the popular areas again if these things become common.

      Fortunately you only need to walk 60 seconds east/west of a car park to get away from most people and the coastline goes on for miles.

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      They will, unfortunately. I hate these things but I know that as soon as influencers make them cool, the shame will go away.

      I really want to be wrong about this.

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    There is an Android app that looks for the Bluetooth signatures of these glasses and alerts if they are nearby. Hopefully something exists on iOS devices as well.

    Edit: The app is called Nearby Glasses and it is available on iOS and Android.

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        It’s from 2013, when Google released Google Glass, the first glasses containing a screen and camera. The backlash to that was exactly like the backlash today towards glasses with cameras. The techbros just hoped we had forgotten.

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    “A lot of men and their behaviors have ruined this product.”

    That’s men acting as they intended using a product as intended. There is no plot twist here.

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      I remember this media cycle from the GoogleGlass era. And while the initial reporting was “People are viciously attacking anyone seen wearing them!”, the business post-mortem was more that nobody was buying them to begin with.

      These glasses are oversized, heavy, ugly, and pretty much useless for anyone who isn’t a pervert. The sticker price for this largely pointless gadget can go north of $800 retail. That’s a high-end PC or fully loaded PS5 for a small camera that sits on your face and some lenses that give you a Virtual Boy tier of AR overlay.

      Who has time for this shit? There’s no use-case.

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        I can think of several use-cases: subtitles for the hearing impaired, translation, AR overlays for technical work, etc. Not saying they’re a good value, but it seems weird to say there’s no use-case.

        And I genuinely don’t understand the pervert angle. What do they do for perverts that can’t be done with much cheaper button/pen cameras, or even a phone in your breast pocket?

        Like sure, there are problems with surveillance and ads and other nasty tech bro shit, that much is obvious. But I sincerely do not understand why they’re being called pervert glasses. Am I missing something?

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      yup. they knew what they were doing when they made it possible to kill the notifcation light without killing the recording.

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    Specifically identifying the “pervert glasses” as “pervert Meta Ray-bans” would kill these products even faster. Associating Ray-bans with perversion would surely be a deal breaker.

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      100%. I’ve been saying it for years that at the end of the day, the only punishment that actually works is the public shaming.

      Bring back the public perp walks. March the criminal through the streets with a big banner announcing their crime, and then leave them them in a public cell in the middle of town for a few days with their name on it, their crime, and no privacy so that people can come and see them.

      A few days of that will do more to cure recidivism than any jail you can name.

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    I just don’t understand why they even tried. Google already proved in 2013 that people think you’re an asshole for wearing things like this, even having the term “glasshole” come about.

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    I have a bad feeling that apple is going to release a pair of smart glasses and all of the social momentum of discouraging wearing these things will be lost overnight.