Blow his brains out
the only consequence of a world without ai is a smooth running industrial powerhouse that increases the value of its people and marketshares. continued use of ai reduces marketshare as well as production output while also shrinking the customer base
Pichai has acheived next to nothing in 11 years at google that wasnt set up by previous leadershi-- all while keeping one of the largest and finest development teams in the world. No big product launches since 2015 when he too over. His “bard” AI effort crashed and burned. He can feel free to shut up and sit down. This pencil-dicked loser needs to do more listening than talking.
I have not large doubts that he and even some people in his position elsewhere can be replaced by AI. We could save a hell lot of money and be even more productive!
I see no reason to listen to what that guy has to say on this topic. He’s only out for money and you can’t believe a word he says and he’s not an expert on it.
I look at everyone this way who is pushing AI shit. Suspicious as fuck.
They hate it. Keep doing it.
should replace CEOs with AI. They already talk like it anyway 🤷♂️
If you ask AI models to hallucinate what it would do as CEO, they usually say things that are environment and worker friendly, so it would be an improvement. Of course, they would train the CEO AI with nothing but Henry Ford speeches and books about the grindset.
I can definitely see LLM board members existing. They should already be gutting the PowerPoint filter management layer
this is the guy who is so bad at his job he tanked google and failed up
This sounds like a threat…
These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact," he added, referring to AI.
Yes. And a direct one at that.
It definitely is a threat. Considering they are already planning on replacing entry level positions with AI they are directly attacking this new generation’s livelihood.
So the fact that they get a little pushback for trying to end the cycle of employment is kind of a joke. This new generation should literally be at their throats if they knew what was good for them.
I think both sides are correct. AI will be still around a decade and centuries from now, and AI poses great risks. The real question is, “Who controls it?”
Hopefully the students do not try to destroy the loom, but instead try to make sure that they are so common and easy to use, that corporations do not have genuine control over the usage of AI. Every minority should have a digital lawyer that has 95% of the ability of Disney’s, to protect people from Kavenaugh Stops. Every poor person should be able to manage their finances just as well as the most blueblooded billionaire. Every household should own a home server and a robot, leasing their usage to corporations. Those corporations shouldn’t own the AI nor robots.
What I am saying, is that we should structure society to ensure that the worst people are not our masters forevermore. Their goal is to control the means of production, and to remove our lives from the process. Both figuratively AND literally.
I agree with your first statement. The conundrum of who controls it is more important than anything else at this point.
I find your comment about students destroying the loom misplaced and misinformed. I am guessing you are referring to the myth of the luddites. Of course the reality is they were never against the machines, but they were against being displaced by machines without compensation. Below are their demands.
"The establishment of a minimum wage to ensure workers could sustain their families despite changing production method.
The provision of work or compensation for skilled artisans and craftsmen who had been displaced by automated machinery.
The regulation and limitation of child and women’s labor in early industrial factories.
The legal right to form trade unions, which were outlawed at the time, to collectively bargain and advocate for improved working conditions.
Opposition to deceitfully manufactured, inferior goods that were being mass-produced on automated"
I like your optimism about LLM doctors and lawyers. Unfortunately with an error rate that can sometimes approach 60% along with hallucinations LLM AI is far from ready and would cause far more problems than it would solve.
You are absolutely correct that corporations shouldn’t own AI. If AI is to ever be useful and not purely a propaganda/advertising machine then corporations should not be in control of the models.
I appreciate your lofty goal of eliminating the worst people from being our masters. Unfortunately, the worst people already are in control of AI and it will likely end up just the opposite of your wishes. A tool to keep the worst people as masters.
I am aware that the wealthy already have control of AI, but that grasp isn’t firm yet. That is why it is important for people to start thinking about policy and implementation now, rather than letting the elite to shape the narrative.
As to optimism, AI is an technology, and it is improving quickly. Eventually, local AI will be able to fit into our phones, and be superior in quality and speed to what I have on my PC*. We should try to initiate an endeavor to make AI available to everyone. For example, Switzerland is working on Apertus, a sovereign AI model for themselves. The development of libre AI is extremely important for sustaining democracy, because it will become a fundamental tool for any modern society.
*A 5950x CPU, 128gb DDR4, 4090, and 3060. I can run 120b models on this aged but fairly powerful machine. Two years ago, on the same PC specs, 70b AI at best, with much inferior quality and speed. It used to take an hour to get output that I receive in minutes now.
No, we do not need to “structure society” around proliferating LLM chatbot girlfriends and robot butlers in order to have socialism. Fuck off with this “people’s techbro” horseshit.
Your position is bad, because it ensures the worst outcome. AI is just one form of power, that evil people will gladly make use of. Either we make it so that society in general understand and is able to control it, or simply allow a group of evil people to obtain sole mastery over the technology.
Say for example if conservatives were the only people with guns, while minorities of all kinds refused to have weapons. Who do you think will end up being bullied, enslaved, and slaughtered? AI is that question, but for economics.
The reason why I push for every household to have a home server and robot, is to prevent an accumulation of power. If governments and corporations had to receive industrial power from citizens, that makes them much more beholdened to democracy and following the will of the people.
These folks just don’t get it.
Let’s put aside the discussion of whether their enthusiasm for the tech is merited or not, that is beside the point.
A commencement speaker is not there to talk about themselves or their favorite things. They are not there to teach the graduates anything or try to debate with the graduates.
A commencement speaker is there to honor and respect the graduates. To commend them on how far they have come and express optimism for what they will bring to society in the future. To make them feel appreciated for all they have done and are about to do. To feel inspired by what they have accomplished and the possibilities they bring to society. There has been and will be plenty of opportunity to educate, debate, and convince them, but this is not the venue for any of that.
Speaking about how “awesome” AI is and how they should be grateful for it is disrespecting them by failing to let them be the focus of their own graduation.
it’ll be hilarious when all this shitware collapses in on itself under the weight of the actual costs.
And the actual costs are starting to hit https://thenextweb.com/news/microsoft-claude-code-retreat-ai-cost
Yeah, an experienced devops can turn a max claude code subscription into a credible position or two. You give it a directory full of indexed md’s and access to your playbooks and it’s really good at understanding your logs and using saveguarded tools you write for it.
But those data-centers full of the most advanced purposed built machines are expensive AF, and the tech is moving so fast, those boxes from 2 years ago are already too inadequate.
When the seed capital is gone and the ventures all want their payday, the banks aren’t going to foot the bill.
AI is here to stay, but the cutting edge will continue become more exponentially more expensive while still only being incrementally better than humans. Sans some amazing breakthrough, it’ll price itself out the the market.
well put.
my only question is how many years of this shit will we need to survive until they realize: there’s no such thing as a free lunch? yeah, you can get agentic systems working with accuracy and precision, but will it ever be a panacea to dev costs that justify the trillions - TRILLIONS - of dollars invested for the paltry billions of profit?
how many years of this shit will we need to survive
That’s largely dependent on the “trillionaires” negotiation with the banks. Some of the data centers are already having trouble getting funded.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers. They’re only building them because of the huge return on investment, tax them in real time on what that return looks like. I think a state and federal tax rate above 40% would greatly slow down this bullshit and get some stuff paid for that we actually need. No hiding behind ‘losses’. That Equipment gets taxed locally at market value and the warehouse+water+electric hookups are taxed at such rates that the utilities can expand what is necessary without fucking over the residents.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers.
fuckin’a
Also to rouse and inspire them.
“I’m working on a machine that will make you guys redundant, and then I’ll make those booing me see. l’ll make you all see.” is hardly going to do that.
He would be much better off talking about how it was the stuff of science fiction not long ago, and how the graduates would be helping to push humanity forward, and make real, things that were also previously considered impossible.
Some of the talks are also just really bad. I’ve seen a few, and they’re little more than ads, or bragging about a thing the institution is doing that’s unrelated to the graduates themselves. Saw one where the speaker was talking about how the college was using AI for various things. Why even have that in the graduates’ speech?
the “Some of you may die” speech by Lord Farquaad from Shrek would be too on-the-nose, tho.
All the supposed top education developed Pichai and it failed. He still believes in the completely fucked up Caste System which leads to his view on AI. He wants to keep the lower class and make sure it remains that way.
This seems like a wonderful time to share this wonderful song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mzYS-ET8o
oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?
or are you really
generating genocide?
Thank you for sharing the song, that was lovely.
Quick Markdown formatting tip: In most flavours you can add 2 spaces at the end of a line to force a line break. Then you can format your block quotes a little prettier without empty newlines:
oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?TIL !!!
Ooh thank you… hope I remember that trick lol
“…and live with its consequences.”
That’s why they’re booing, you moron.
What a creepy thing to say. The guy pulling the strings on Ai talking about consequences lol
Indian Jeff Goldblum
That’s why they’re booing.