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    They knew how to do this in the 80s. Little Shop of Horrors, The Fly, and The Thing for example. All remakes that far surpassed the cheesy originals.

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    The best example is The Thing. The original film in the 1950s was awkward af. But the 1980s remake by John Carpenter was chef’s kiss. Then they made a remake of a remake and it was meh.

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      The 2011 The Thing wasn’t so much a remake as it was a prequel to the remake, telling the story from the Norwegian scientists’ camp.

      The 1982 John Carpenter remake opened with the last two remaining Norwegian scientists chasing “The Thing” until it reaches the Americans’ camp. But they’re misunderstood by the Americans. When trying to shoot at The Thing, which has taken the shape of a sled dog, the Americans instead return fire and kill them. Then the Americans explore the Norwegian camp and try to figure out what horrors killed everyone there, while slowly discovering why they were shooting at a dog in the first place.

      The 2011 film shows what happened to the Norwegians before the 1982 remake. You’re correct, it wasn’t as great of a film (hard to compete with John Carpenter), but it wasn’t exactly a remake.

      • The worst thing about the 2011 prequel is they had filmed the whole movie with practical effects, like the Carpenter movie, which is one of my favorites of all time. If you’ve seen it, you may remember very little of these and a lot of cgi.

        The studio or production company or whatever didn’t like the practical effects and we got cgi Thing instead. I’d love to see the original effects, and I feel so bad for the people who worked so hard on it just to get scrubbed from the final cut.

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        It was a weird combination of remake and prequel. It hit all the same story points and barely added anything new apart from Tetris aliens.

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      You scared me for a second, being only aware of the 80s one I thought you wanted a remake of that lol

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      Today we see it that way but in the 70s and 80s, the 1950s Thing was hailed as a classic prestige science fiction film. That’s why Carpenter’s version was trashed at the time. It was dismissed as a grotesque barf bag SFX spectacle that completely disregarded what made the original so good.

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    On a vaguely related note, why aren’t we making more movies that take a Shakespeare plot and just stuff it in a different setting without trying to hide it? Like 10 Things I Hate about you was Taming of the Shrew.

    Tell me you wouldn’t watch Mechbeth.

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        The Lion King (1994) is Hamlet.

        “O” (2001) is Othello.

        Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990) is based on two minor characters of Hamlet.

        She’s the Man (2006) is Twelfth Night.

        Romeo + Juliet (1996) is a modern-day Romeo and Juliet.

        O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) is Homer’s Odyssey. Not Shakespeare, but a brilliant modern retelling of one of humanity’s oldest surviving stories. In the same vein as the above mentioned films.

        These are all I can think of off the top of my head. Not to mention dozens of modern Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, and Macbeth retellings over the years. Those three alone are the more popular Shakespeare stories for reinvention on the big screen.

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          I would love to see ReBoot (1994) with modern CG. And also a modernized plot, considering we know so much more about computers and the Internet now.

          1994 was when the Internet started to spread publicly around the world and became a thing you could access from your very own home. It was this cool new technology that connected humanity across the globe, but most people didn’t really understand it yet.

          So shows like ReBoot captured our fascination with the “Information Superhighway” and built a fantasy/sci-fi story around it. Even if it was horribly inaccurate to how computers and the Internet actually worked.

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            A group is remastering ReBoot with the blessings of its creators from the original DAT tapes, so they are pixel-perfect HD transfers that one could not have seen on any TV at the time.

            Look it up on YouTube. Reboot doesn’t need to be remade, the original masters still looks smoking hot. They recovered the widescreen versions, too.

            They’re negotiating the rights to do the same thing to Transformers Beast Wars next.

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              It needs to be finished. Damn Cartoon Network for cliffhanger canceling them after reviving them from a hasty finale.

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    Instead of the corporatization of storytelling, we should be letting artists tell the stories they want to tell. We should engage with our media more critically and stop chasing nostalgia.

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    Or maybe, just maybe do a new franchise or movie. I’m so tired of going to the cinema and watching the trailers for 9 ouf of the 10 comming up movies being sequals or reboots of old franchises.

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      If they can’t even make a good sequal or reboot of an old successful franchise, how do you expect them to make a good movie/franchise from scratch?

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      Theyre all the same anyways. There hasnt been a unique story in hundreds/thousands of years. Its all the same plots with different characters in different environments.

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        I think it’s because the way the advertise movies now is terrible. Go look at trailers of the past and it’s always “in a world gone mad only one man can stop the terrorists from blowing up New York” yeah I know it’s cheesy but at least I know what the movies about. These days it’s 300 cuts per minute and now it’s anyone’s guess what genre it is.

        Downsizing is the quintessential example of the switch and bait of modern trailers. What an incredibly boring movie that was.

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      That’s actually a fairly good take - they could make a bunch of old scripts and make them enticing to license, and couple that with a small fund to seed some ultra small-scale productions (by Hollywood standards). I like it.

      Couple that with remakes on whatever gets traction and it could prove short term profitable as well as raise the overall long term value of their vault. (I hate that this analysis is needed, but unless we change copyright law, this buy-in would be a necessary step.)

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    Movie mash-ups.

    Back to the Future and Tron.

    Blade Runner and Hawaii 5-0

    Truman and Silo.

    Mrs. Doubtfire and John Wick.

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    I kinda think Event Horizon had a phenomenal concept, but had a C+ execution. If there’s a movie I think needs a remake, it’s that.

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    Let’s have multiple reboots going at the same time. I think it would be great to have like three reboots of Jurassic Park going at the same time with different directors. I want to see a full length Wes Anderson take on the film, but also a Zach Snyder take and maybe a Danny Boyle take competing on the same weekend.

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      Doesn’t that pretty much describe DC? At one point, they ha Juaquin Phoenix Joker, DCEU, and the Robert Pattinson Batman all kinda overlapping.

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    Because nobody will fund a huge production that’s based on something that didn’t do well. Are you nuts? Are you going to go up to people and ask for 50 million dollars or whatever and say we’re going to take this thing sucked that nobody liked and we’re going to redo it.

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      I mean, they’ve made how many Percy Jackson movies? Pretty sure no one likes any of them.

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        Disney’s new show is actually pretty good

        In a similar vein, the Series of Unfortunate Events movie was a weird and ultimately disappointing adaptation but the Netflix series was incredible