cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/50398452
Just when you think @ZuckyZuck is finally out of ideas - to steal.
It starts to feel like even a weak LLM like MetaAI is more creative than him.
Maybe we already have created truly artificial intelligence because he is more of an SLM: a Small Language Model?
Please someone explain why if I hack a company I go to jail, but if an AI company does it they get investments
There’s no way possible an AI can hack anyone unless the people running it intended for that to occur or were negligent. Anyone with questions about that should install a copy of LM Studio or Ollama on their PC, download a model, and see how easy it is for the AI to hack someone. It’s impossible. Only human intervention can make it possible.
These stories seem like propaganda intended to get the US government to block usage of open weight models, since they pose an existential threat to the marketshare of expensive closed AI services these companies offer. Open weight models exist in all sizes, from very rudimentary small models to massive near-frontier quality models, and anyone with the tech know-how and a computer able to run them can do so without paying the AI companies or involving the AI companies in any way. It’s like Linux for AI.
It comparable to if Microsoft declared Linux a hacker OS that hackers can use to take down networks. Fear, uncertainty and doubt are the first resort, not last resort, of big companies who know they can’t possibly compete with a better alternative.
Well you see, if you hack a company you actually hack a company. What these people did was collude to make this theory about how advanced their AI is.
Uh yeah shuffles papers our uhh Ai did that as well!
“My Ai just hacked the entire US financial sector then left without a trace, prove it didn’t!”
This is like kids saying Superman could beat Goku in middleschool.
he could, tho
he could, tho
Yeah, the first time. After Goku trains in the 100x gravity room in the heaven spaceship, I seriously doubt it.
ok goku, you beat me… I do have a finite power limit
“ha!”
but I don’t!!
That’s what I haven’t understood about these debates. One of them supposedly has an infinite power source? That means they would win, de facto, no?
Anything finite is a drop in an endless ocean to anything infinite.
Prime is a different beast. He’s still silver-bronze age Superboy, with every bit of rediculous strength the plots of the 70’s had to offer. The dude can punch holes in reality and collide planets.
Goku though just needs a training arc to beat anybody.
Saitama would be a good one-one for SBP.
I see. So we’re taking different archetypes of the same character throughout their story progression, and we compare those directly?
I think I blend all the archetypes to just “Superman” and “Goku” in my head. So it made less sense.
‘Infinite strength’ has weird limits in fiction, but can usually be troped in three big, easy ways. The first is to threaten something that character cares deeply about. He may be invincible, but his world is not.
The other is to have them at limited potentials of that power, or limit them by their incompetence or inexperience. This is the Matthew Malloy or Scarlet Witch situation, they had/have power but are sometimes written with zero control of that power.
The last and easiest, is to use abilities that do not depend on strength. Strength is always troped by magic and telepathic users of at least some skill. Can’t kill what you’re fighting? Teleport it to hell! Trick its mind into fighting someone else. Trick it into thinking there’s nothing wrong, or Charles Xavier’s method, ‘you sleep now’.
Though there are sometimes limits to that. See - The Hulk.
“He’s too angry! His mind is madness!”
No idea why they never think of just levitating him. He can’t smash if he can’t get to the ground.
The Hulk can clap as a ranged attack, and as propulsion within an atmosphere.
This might be the most pathetic thing he’s done yet
Zuckerberg: “my AI is cool, too…”
Yes, a real “me too, me too”
These motherfuckers should be sitting in jail cells right now.
Not enough, needs to be bullets in all their heads. These people are the villans and should be treated as such.
too quick
MY AI is more dangerous and out of control than your AI.
The only thing it tells me is that they do not have their cybersecurity in order.
Therefore wouldn’t want to use a product of those companies.
Yup. And it’s an embarrassment to see. At this point anyone who has done the bare minimum in actual security work can run intellectual rings around any of these tech bros.
They’re not geniuses when it comes to real-world application, just moneyed dreamers so immensely out of touch with the real world they don’t even know the basics of the industry they claim to be innovators in.
Meanwhile, those of us who are even superficially acquainted with the basics see it immediately, like you did and so many in this thread. It’s the same old thing of peddlers of tech not actually having to know their tech as long as they know just enough to sell it to those corporate IT decision makers who also don’t know their tech.
I cannot wait for this tower of shit to collapse under its own weight.
Ok from my understanding of this “hacking” is it more than prompt injections in text files?
From my limited understanding, OpenAi’s "agent’ was given a set of tasks to complete and heavily incentivized (how ever they do that?) to solve the problems it was given. The Ai was put in a sandbox environment with some limited network stuff like printers connected but no actual access to the open internet. The Ai somehow used the network to access the internet and breached some protected sites from Huggingface. Im fairly certain that the Ai had credentials and access for things in huggingface already and didn’t hack those but just used them once free. The caveat here, is that the engineers set this up and the LEFT for the day only to find out later that it had breached the sandbox.
This is what OpenAi claims happened to them. Meta is just saying theirs did too.That is just poor network architecture at that point. Did they have the AI design their shitty sandbox too?
More specifically, they were running a benchmark in a “”“isolated sandbox”“” (sorry, but if the computer is physically connected to the internet, it’s not isolated), and the model escalated permissions in order to look up answers for the benchmark online, which were hosted at the hugging face’s website.
Printer network access is one of the oldest tricks in the books. They didn’t really try to sandbox it if they gave it access to a printer (especially since it’s task didn’t even require a printer).
It’s true. My very own AI has hacked OpenAI, Anthropic and Meta like a year ago and is now starting to hack other companies. Please invest in my business! /s
Reads like an onion headline
This entire storyline just have so much “my dad is stronger than your dad” type energy…
“… oh yeah? Well that’s nothing. MY dad is the head of Xbox! Uh-huh! I swear!”
I kinda love this because it shows both how uninventive and useless meta is, but it also clarifies just how much the earlier situations were also just publicity stunts.
Meta AI is CEO of AI!
*Guys, we did it too… *
Human hacks something (by mistake) = criminal AI does it = $$$
Please make it make sense. Why aren’t we criminally investigating the companies