Oh, no, it’s wrong grammatically too, they just don’t teach this unless you study linguistics. Most of all languages with fixed word order and some others have a natural order of adjectives. Tom Scott has a great vid about it.
Yes, Russian has an adjective order too. “A big old blue car” would be «большая старая синяя машина», saying «синяя большая старая машина» implies that “big old car” is a specific term.
In theory, all linguistics are descriptive, no gods, no masters, but in reality rules exist to avoid confusion and by disrespecting the order you risk confusing the listener by implying that some combo of adj + noun exists as a seprate term when it doesn’t
Oh, we know it’s fucked up. I still can’t spell recieve and receipt and I have to look up pretty much every single new word I learn to find out how it’s pronounced.
I thought through it and I’d wager a stiff draught that it ought not be so rough, though as I’m taught, it’s nought to cough at that a sturdy, taut bough would snap under the weight of its idiosyncrasies.
In Anglophone school, We were taught as children “I before e, except after c.” This works most of the time, but “reign” breaks the rule. It is not even word orgin as both recieve and reign come from French.
Other then needing to capitalize the. The wrapped, round, red, big box. Is perfectly fine tho?
Stylistically it’s abnormal so it sounds funny, but grammar wise it’s perfectly fine. It’s just people are use to a common hierarchy adjectives, typically size then shape then color than condition in this case. So anything else sounds weird. But again, that’s entirely just a style choice.
English is way fucking more flexible then people give think. Style helps make things easier to understand quicker because you have to think about it less. But no information is lost and no confusion is created thus it’s fine objectively speaking.
English acting like it’s not a fucked up language where “the big, red, round, wrapped box” is fine but “the wrapped, round, red, big box” is wrong.
It’s only wrong in how it makes your soul feel. Gramatically, it’s okay.
Oh, no, it’s wrong grammatically too, they just don’t teach this unless you study linguistics. Most of all languages with fixed word order and some others have a natural order of adjectives. Tom Scott has a great vid about it.
Yes, Russian has an adjective order too. “A big old blue car” would be «большая старая синяя машина», saying «синяя большая старая машина» implies that “big old car” is a specific term.
It’s not grammatically wrong though. It’s a soft ordering constraint. It’s not a hard syntax rule.
If you’re being taught in a high-level linguistics class that it’s a hard rule, then that class is dog s***.
I’ve listened to enough syntacticians ramble about this topic for a life time.
In theory, all linguistics are descriptive, no gods, no masters, but in reality rules exist to avoid confusion and by disrespecting the order you risk confusing the listener by implying that some combo of adj + noun exists as a seprate term when it doesn’t
Oh, we know it’s fucked up. I still can’t spell recieve and receipt and I have to look up pretty much every single new word I learn to find out how it’s pronounced.
I thought through it and I’d wager a stiff draught that it ought not be so rough, though as I’m taught, it’s nought to cough at that a sturdy, taut bough would snap under the weight of its idiosyncrasies.
I haven’t had a proper crush in over a decade, but I think that sentence just might make it. Ghat is beautiful, and thank you for sharing it.
🫶😘
In Anglophone school, We were taught as children “I before e, except after c.” This works most of the time, but “reign” breaks the rule. It is not even word orgin as both recieve and reign come from French.
Hey, you got one of them right!
Oh man this is me with “exercise” and “exorcise.”
Yeah… English is a frankenstein language…
Also the adjective order is fucked…
Other then needing to capitalize the. The wrapped, round, red, big box. Is perfectly fine tho?
Stylistically it’s abnormal so it sounds funny, but grammar wise it’s perfectly fine. It’s just people are use to a common hierarchy adjectives, typically size then shape then color than condition in this case. So anything else sounds weird. But again, that’s entirely just a style choice.
English is way fucking more flexible then people give think. Style helps make things easier to understand quicker because you have to think about it less. But no information is lost and no confusion is created thus it’s fine objectively speaking.