I look forward to when CXMT scales up and provides cheap memory. The memory cartel will cry about unfair competition, just like when Japan was kicking ass with memory in the 80s.
And now the press are calling us ‘device hoarders’ for taking good care of our shit and not wanting to upgrade to new devices too.
Millennials are ruining the device industry smh
Fuck AI
Fuck mega corporations who think we shouldn’t own but rent from them when they aren’t providing a service that is needed if they didn’t vacuum up all available resources in that area then rent it out.
Their data centers are flammable. Just sayin’
… thats kinda counter productive… they would order more hardware
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You mean the shortage that’s purposefully engineered to price everyone out of the market and push them onto the cloud?
I don’t think it was purposefully engineered. I’m pretty sure it takes over a decade to ramp up production.
Then the prices will come back down, right?
Right?
i’m convinced corporations want us all to soon be using shitty computers like Chromebooks running everything in the cloud.
You’re absolutely correct. They want their app on your devices and they want you permanently signed into whatever bullshit service they’re promoting.
Restricted Access Memory
Restricted AI Memory
If only we lived in a country with consumer protection and anti-monopoly laws.
I do but it doesn‘t matter much because the US Empire holds all the cards here.
Depends on when the AI bubble pops.
I’ve been researching this a bit… I’ve come to the conclusion that there is no AI bubble. In fact, we’re only just getting started down this road. Unless there’s some massive 100x efficiency breakthrough in training AI and inference, the entire world is going to be building seemingly endless AI data centers (and the normal compute kind, e.g. for stuff like AWS, Google/YouTube, Meta, banks) for at least a decade. Probably a little longer (12-15 years before demand levels out).
Everyone thinks that “AI data center” means ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, etc but there’s 10,000x more demand for AI than those services. Think: Pharmaceutical companies trying to find proteins, scientists (and big agriculture!) trying to model the weather, and other businesses trying to automate stuff. Not just software; robots and things like conveyor belts.
Another example: Ever use one of those self-checkouts that’s mostly just a camera pointing down, where you place the stuff you’re purchasing? That uses AI too.
Having said that, there is a great big bubble in AI: OpenAI, specifically. That will definitely pop one day. And hopefully, the DRAM bullshit will go along with it.
Yeah, the LLM and picture generation bubble will burst but that isn’t ‘AI’, it’s a tiny subset of tasks that happen to be easy to train because the companies involved have helped themselves to all of the text and images created by humanity.
The other uses of AI are harder to train, because we don’t have centuries worth of robotic motion data or a YouTube of folded protein data. Those are the uses that will have the most impact in the future, as they are developed.
LLMs are a bubble, AI is not.
LLMs are the only thing that is hyped. The other models and applications have existed already back when ChatGPT first hit the public and they have not had any special break through that would explain exponential growth in investment or a need for compute power. Language models had that with the transformer structure, everything else just develops iteratively.
The bubble we see now is because of language models and we can try and conflate it with other deep models and call it all AI, but it doesn’t change the fact that the generative models are the only ones requiring these resources and are looking for a problem to solve.
Waiting for the “waiting for ai bubble to pop” bubble to pop at this point.
It‘s funny. The people who betted against the housing bubble knew 2006 would be the year where none of this was sustainable anymore. The bubble burst in 2008 and they had to take several loans to finance their bet. Despite it being obvious to us now and a few insiders back then, that bet was highly risky because you never know who might help the market go down a self destructive path for how long. Even when everyone already knows it‘s a bubble they might spend a $trillion more just to keep up the illusion. The government will bail them out anyway, right? So why not take the entire economy down with them?
Define bubble in this context and lets see if it still applies to something that has persisted despite overwhelming claims it is a bubble about to pop.
Truly at this point it just seems calling the AI industry a bubble is trying to be mean rather than making an observation. You aren’t going to hurt an industries feelings you should instead be factual.
Bubbles pop, this is something else. Feel free to be self righteous but if you are just regurgitating something you think is insulting and because you want it to be true you are a fuckwit.
Chatgpt came out in late 2022. Are you arguing that because the AI bubble didn’t pop yet that it’s not a bubble? The internet persisted but that doesn’t mean the dot-com boom wasn’t a bubble.
Yep. Comparing this to the dotcom bubble is just foolish they are not the same. You are going to have to back it up with some facts please fuck off with your opinions.
Is the RAM shortage a problem worldwide or are there countries that have laws to prevent this/have enough RAM?
