I mean the zero point of Celsius isn’t a vibe in the same way as “pretty cold, pretty hot” or however people describe Fahrenheit. It actually means something to real life that it gets to zero or goes negative. 100C is for most people much less useful tbf.
But mainly it’s about what you’re used ofc. I just hate the nonsense thing about Fahrenheit being better that is about vibes alone
It’s literally a vibe… 0 is an arbitrary number just as much as 32, 69 or 420 is. Your just up your own ass like most people are when it comes to C vs F. Both systems suck, both systems are fucking retarded, both systems are entirely bullshit vibes based nonsense till you give them an arbitrary attachment point to something.
They are literally by definition relative scales. It’s literally worthless nonsense with out a reference point. And in that regard F and C are literally the EXACT same thing. One just has a more fine scale while the other is more coarse.
The only scale that isn’t 100% vibes based is kelvin.
0 F is when a brine formula freezes at sea level. It’s not any more vibey. The utility is vibey, but that’s almost always the case.
However, neither 0F or 0C are actually defined as what we say. 0F is not the freezing point of brine, and 0C is not the freezing point of water. They’re defined in terms of Kelvin, which is not vibey.
0 in F also means something very specific. Celsius isn’t any better at that. If you want something that actually means 0 at 0 then use Kelvin. If you aren’t, both have an equal basis in reality.
The scale of values is just better for human experience in F. It has more integer values in the range of values humans experience.
It didn’t say something that relates to my real daily life, only something real. Anyway, 0°F is the freezing point of brine at sea level. That is relevant because our blood is essentially brine, if we want to stretch things. The freezing point of water at sea level isn’t exactly useful unless we’re working with water at sea level.
Integers are easier to write. We never have to use decimals with F since we have plenty of integers. Yes, you can use decimals, but we’re discussing ease of use. If you can’t recognize that not needing them is easier then you’re not being honest.
It didn’t say something that relates to my real daily life, only something real.
I was commenting on this:
“It’s pretty much just 0 is really cold and 100 is really hot as far as weather goes. Besides that it feels pretty arbitrary. I’m a metric stan, but I do still think Fahrenheit is pretty good for talking about the weather.”
That’s what I’m referring to with this:
"I mean the zero point of Celsius isn’t a vibe in the same way as “pretty cold, pretty hot” "
The freezing point of water at sea level isn’t exactly useful unless we’re working with water at sea level.
I’m not sure if you’re joking but knowing if the roads will be frozen or if it’s gonna snow is pretty useful lol
I’m not sure if you’re joking but knowing if the roads will be frozen or if it’s gonna snow is pretty useful lol
Ok, and F is also great for that purpose. When that’s an issue, most major roads will be salted. 0F was explicitly the point where brine freezes, so it’s actually perfect for knowing when salted roads will freeze. You can probably know when unsalted roads will freeze by the snow/ice around. Both are useful, but you’re arbitrarily ignoring the utility of F just to defend C, for some reason. I don’t know why people make this part of their personality.
I just don’t understand the utility over C. It sorta feeling like cold or hot doesn’t make all that much sense to me, it’s so vague
Exactly. Both C and F are arbitrary, both having some advantage over the other for certain circumstances. Kelvin is the only one you can argue for in a purely absolute sense. People saying C is better for some kind of purity reason are just making things up. C and F have the same basis in the measurement of reality, and they’re just slightly better at measuring certain things than the other, but both are perfectly usable interchangeably.
Like I said earlier, the utility of the C’s zero point being when it freezes/snows seems a lot more concrete to me than “it goes from cold to hot, kinda”
Why are you insisting on integers? Why are you scared of decimals? They are perfectly easy to use and provides a much wider range of scale than your arbitrary 0-100 scale does.
I’m not insisting on them. When did I say I was? Is this discussion not on ease of use? Does not needing to use decimals not make it easier to use? Yes, you can use decimals, but it saves on writing and space if we don’t need them. It’s easier. If you can’t admit that that is an advantage then you’re not arguing in good faith.
Why are you insisting on integers? Why are you scared of decimals? They are perfectly easy to use and provides a much wider range of scale than your arbitrary 0-100 scale does.
They were saying decimals work fine. I explained why having the precision without needing decimals is fine.your comment has no bearing on this. Why did you comment? Anyway, just because you don’t need it doesn’t remove the advantage. I don’t need a spoon to eat soup, but it sure does help.
I mean the zero point of Celsius isn’t a vibe in the same way as “pretty cold, pretty hot” or however people describe Fahrenheit. It actually means something to real life that it gets to zero or goes negative. 100C is for most people much less useful tbf.
But mainly it’s about what you’re used ofc. I just hate the nonsense thing about Fahrenheit being better that is about vibes alone
It’s literally a vibe… 0 is an arbitrary number just as much as 32, 69 or 420 is. Your just up your own ass like most people are when it comes to C vs F. Both systems suck, both systems are fucking retarded, both systems are entirely bullshit vibes based nonsense till you give them an arbitrary attachment point to something.
They are literally by definition relative scales. It’s literally worthless nonsense with out a reference point. And in that regard F and C are literally the EXACT same thing. One just has a more fine scale while the other is more coarse.
The only scale that isn’t 100% vibes based is kelvin.
The comparison was to “pretty cold for a human”. That’s a lot more vibey than “it’s when water freezes”. That’s at least something solid (heh).
Also coverting C to kelvin or vice versa is just an offset, not some weird arbitrary formula…
Good point. Instead of Kelvin, lets go back to Rankine.
0 F is when a brine formula freezes at sea level. It’s not any more vibey. The utility is vibey, but that’s almost always the case.
However, neither 0F or 0C are actually defined as what we say. 0F is not the freezing point of brine, and 0C is not the freezing point of water. They’re defined in terms of Kelvin, which is not vibey.
The utility was what we were talking about.
0 in F also means something very specific. Celsius isn’t any better at that. If you want something that actually means 0 at 0 then use Kelvin. If you aren’t, both have an equal basis in reality.
The scale of values is just better for human experience in F. It has more integer values in the range of values humans experience.
What specific thing does it mean that would relate to your real, daily life?
Huh? What does that even mean and why it has to specifically be integer values??
It didn’t say something that relates to my real daily life, only something real. Anyway, 0°F is the freezing point of brine at sea level. That is relevant because our blood is essentially brine, if we want to stretch things. The freezing point of water at sea level isn’t exactly useful unless we’re working with water at sea level.
Integers are easier to write. We never have to use decimals with F since we have plenty of integers. Yes, you can use decimals, but we’re discussing ease of use. If you can’t recognize that not needing them is easier then you’re not being honest.
I was commenting on this:
“It’s pretty much just 0 is really cold and 100 is really hot as far as weather goes. Besides that it feels pretty arbitrary. I’m a metric stan, but I do still think Fahrenheit is pretty good for talking about the weather.”
That’s what I’m referring to with this:
"I mean the zero point of Celsius isn’t a vibe in the same way as “pretty cold, pretty hot” "
I’m not sure if you’re joking but knowing if the roads will be frozen or if it’s gonna snow is pretty useful lol
That’s not my comment. I do agree with it though.
Ok, and F is also great for that purpose. When that’s an issue, most major roads will be salted. 0F was explicitly the point where brine freezes, so it’s actually perfect for knowing when salted roads will freeze. You can probably know when unsalted roads will freeze by the snow/ice around. Both are useful, but you’re arbitrarily ignoring the utility of F just to defend C, for some reason. I don’t know why people make this part of their personality.
You are really grasping at straws. Next you’re going to say they’re salting the falling snow in the US so it’s perfect for knowing that temp too lmao
I just don’t understand the utility over C. It sorta feeling like cold or hot doesn’t make all that much sense to me, it’s so vague
Exactly. Both C and F are arbitrary, both having some advantage over the other for certain circumstances. Kelvin is the only one you can argue for in a purely absolute sense. People saying C is better for some kind of purity reason are just making things up. C and F have the same basis in the measurement of reality, and they’re just slightly better at measuring certain things than the other, but both are perfectly usable interchangeably.
Like I said earlier, the utility of the C’s zero point being when it freezes/snows seems a lot more concrete to me than “it goes from cold to hot, kinda”
Why are you insisting on integers? Why are you scared of decimals? They are perfectly easy to use and provides a much wider range of scale than your arbitrary 0-100 scale does.
I’m not insisting on them. When did I say I was? Is this discussion not on ease of use? Does not needing to use decimals not make it easier to use? Yes, you can use decimals, but it saves on writing and space if we don’t need them. It’s easier. If you can’t admit that that is an advantage then you’re not arguing in good faith.
You don’t need to use decimals with Celsius. Very rare when talking about the weather for example
From the comment I was responding to:
They were saying decimals work fine. I explained why having the precision without needing decimals is fine.your comment has no bearing on this. Why did you comment? Anyway, just because you don’t need it doesn’t remove the advantage. I don’t need a spoon to eat soup, but it sure does help.