• Dragon@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Further, I am not purely speaking of children, but also full adults getting their medical degrees and having to give back to the system by going to the areas most in need for a time.

    I definitely oppose that. It might just be a difference in values.

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      7 hours ago

      I can’t imagine why you oppose that. In fact, I think it should be mandatory in all countries. If your education is paid for by the state of the proletariat, then you HAVE to pay back to society.

      I think this might be one of those individualistic vs collectivist moral thing.

      In my country, if the state pays for your education, then you’re mandated to do service for a few years to the underprivileged sections of society. Because it was THEIR money that paid for your education. I would never vote for anyone trying to change this.

      All of us owe a debt to society because our lives are made possible by it. All of us owe something to our fellow humans.

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        6 hours ago

        I think this might be one of those individualistic vs collectivist moral thing.

        I do have individualistic values, in the Marxist sense. I oppose a society oriented around the individual, but I do value individuality and the encouragement/development of it.

        All of us owe a debt to society because our lives are made possible by it.

        I find the concept of debt problematic, especially one that is not taken by choice. As to serving the state in return for education, that’s more of a gray area if you still have the option to not accept the education.

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      7 hours ago

      You may oppose it, but you also likely do not live in a socialist country. Understanding why socialist countries have the policies they do requires understanding their situations. For example, in Cuba, sending doctors to the rural areas helped provide medical access to people who never had it before. These programs are not at all comparable to slavery, but are pro-social policies decided within a class, not imposed by one class onto the rest.

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        7 hours ago

        I actually live in a country that claims to be socialist, but I’m not sure they have gone very far to earn that label.

        Cuba…doctors

        AFAIK no one is forced to become a doctor in Cuba

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          6 hours ago

          Not sure what you mean, if you don’t live in China, Vietnam, Laos, the DPRK, Cuba, or potentially Venezuela, then I don’t think your country is really socialist. Either way, my point is that universal conscription isn’t at all the same as slavery.