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Then windows says “Undoing Changes” because its shit software doesn’t work
Didn’t know we were still doing apt-get
I have a lot to learn
Yeah why do I still see this everywhere
haven’t used linux in decades but used to use aptitude over apt-get
Aaaand… you’re on Debian, so Blender 4.0 just got added to the testing branch. (Blender 4.0 still haven’t been tested for 168 hours of continuous running without touching it)
It’s a good thing system packages (which should follow a conservative update approach if possible to guarantee system stability, unless hardware demands newer packages) and user applications (which you’d usually want to be most up-to-date) are increasingly isolated from each other and mostly able to follow their own schedules. Also improves security and such.
KDE Plasma recommends applying updates at reboot like Windows for stability. In fact, that is how it does them by default
KDE Plasma does what I tell it to
topgrade -yYou’re welcome.
genini update my machine
Because I’m apparently a raging masochist
sorry, usage of this tool has been discontinued, please use [WORSE TOOL WITH DIFFERENT NAME]
(joking but not really, gemini-cli is going to the google graveyard, replaced by antigravity-cli that’s basically the same, but in google’s tradition it launches with less features and also it’s not FOSS)
nixos-rebuild switch
going to nix from another distro like the leap from going from windows to linux
I’d rather switch back to Windows than try NixOS again. The immutable structure was far too rigid for me.
I run an Ubuntu server and I make the history keep a lot of entries so I remember which files I changed
It shouldn’t have to be like this
Every single time I’ve run upgrade on Debian, I’ve bricked my install. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong 😆
I’m probably a big newb, but on my headless Debian machines, major updates screw me up sometimes too.
- “Ah! All my updates can’t be found on the server? Oh we’re done with “Bo-Peep” and moving to “PotatoHead” now? Maybe I should be on the newsletter or something…”
- Change some sources in that one text file I gotta look up every time…
apt update && apt dist-upgrade“Oh, that’s a lot of errors…”
I’m sure it’s not that bad and I’m being dramatic but I do kinda appreciate my rolling OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for this reason lol. I feel like newbies would struggle with that major release upgrade process…
Watch out! People in here looove Debian for some reason
You misspelled
pacman -SyuNo, you misspelled
zypper dup. But with enough time, you’ll get there.I kneel
The only true answer
Yay
paru
Update before upgrade you nonce
Isn’t this how Non-Torvalds Linus bricked his install
C’mon, it’s Debian! Obsolete anyway. Update today, upgrade in a week, not like things gonna change. Perhaps the man forgot the upgrade a week ago, upgraded, and then decided to double-check there’s nothing new anyway. Right?
Update first, then upgrade
It runs so much faster if you do upgrade first \s
Good catch. Haven’t been using apt in some time.
sudo pacman -Syuyaywhich yay yay: aliased to paru
Is it even
apt-getstill? thought they changed over toaptlong ago andapt-getis just a symlink for legacy reasons.At least that’s what I last read… (speaking as someone also loving candy) .
apt is a wrapper over the apt- binaries (apt-search apt-cache etc).
aptis meant more for user interaction andapt-getis more stable and more for scripting. Butapt-getis often used in online tutorials because it doesn’t really change.I think it wasn’t for APT but I once worked for a business with a lot of RHEL, the script that was updating hundreds of servers was using the user wrapper instead of the binaries. A warning was displayed in the script to warn not to use the wrapper for scripts.
I warned my team leader of the issue and was completely ignored and was said that it was an issue for the team that made the script in the first place.
I gave up.
A few weeks later, the poorly designed script botched a major update on hundred of servers because the wrapper had a tiny change and the update script didn’t handle it well.
It’s insane to me how much money a business can waste for stupid shit like that. The devs warned us not to use their wrapper to script on, the linux team did it anyway, my warning was ignored, many hours of engineers work was wasted fixing the chaos that ensued.
Or if you’re me,
yay -Syuand wait 4 fucking hours (Because you barely ever remember to do it).Just
yaywould sufficeI do update my Arch each time it boots. Like a tiny tradition to me.
Doing
yay -Syu --noconfirm & shutdownwhenever I turn my machine off has been the solution for meWait but that means your computer will stay on if the update fails, right?
Wait but that means your computer will stay on if the update fails, right?
If it was
&&then the second command would only run if the first command was successful.But @vodka@feddit.org wrote only one
&which instead means the first command will run in the background and the second will execute at the same time… which does not seem like a good idea in this case 😅Oh damn, yeah it was supposed to be &&, probably messed it up when arguing with the stupid phone keyboard adding spaces after symbols
It doesn’t deserve the rest if it fails.
You turn your machine off???
Once a month or so yes!
I kid. I reboot every couple weeks to save myself a bunch of headaches.
I reboot every time an update triggers mkinitcpio. Otherwise som kernel modules stop working.
Thank you!
topgradeI just want to share that last semester, the Windows podium computer we used decided randomly to update during a student presentation. It did not help their nerves, but I did turn it into a chance to evangelize Linux.
And no, they can’t use their own laptop, the connections to the podium computer, and thus the projector, use VGA…
Not that it matters much but isn’t there cheap adapters to/from VGA?
Yes but it’s generally easier and less prone to issues to just open their PowerPoint (or really, Google sheets) on the podium since I’m already using it. I’m sure the admin uses adapters as their excuse not to update the hardware though… (even if they are still using Win 11 on decades old computers).
I have had windows users tell me that a projector needs a usb adapter. While HDMI worked perfectly fine and I even got crazy high resolution (after configuring it myself in KDE)
Honestly, I would prefer if a video projector wasn’t tossed as garbage if you can just buy a cheap adapter and put it in a box next to the podium.
We have enough electronic waste as it is!
Yes, same; the real solution is Linux podium with an adapter in every room by default. But that’s not happening anytime soon, lol.
Technically it’s not the projector with the issue either, the podium is more or less a very fancy hub with a monitor built in. I feel like the adapter could just be built in if necessary, lol.
Vga-hdmi adapters are trivial
