Just confirms my experience that whenever “there is an app” for a device, it is a red flag as the device’s ecosystem is fragile: when the vendor looses interest in maintaining app or servers, your device turns into a brick. Plus, those apps demand suspicious permissions like access to the address book or the ability to make phone calls.
Lol I have almost the same experience. I tried Eero. Never mind that it had literally only one LAN port. You also had to do everything on a mobile app, without any options to modify stuff under the hood. It was also detecting phantom devices and dropping my actual devices from wifi. When I contacted support, I discovered during troubleshooting they had live visibility of my network. I switched to a basic, traditional Netgear router after that, and now I’m using a GL.Inet (openwrt) router as well.
But, frustratingly, most people who have one will probably connect it to the internet just because that’s what the manual says to do during the set up procedure.
It’s getting harder to find devices that don’t insist on being connected.
This is completely unrelated but you said “suspicious permissions” and triggered my need to moan about not being allowed to make or join teams calls (since last year, I think?) unless you give Microsoft a list of all devices on your network. Fuck you microsoft and your dogshit apps
Just confirms my experience that whenever “there is an app” for a device, it is a red flag as the device’s ecosystem is fragile: when the vendor looses interest in maintaining app or servers, your device turns into a brick. Plus, those apps demand suspicious permissions like access to the address book or the ability to make phone calls.
Depends on what the app does. If required I don’t want it, if it’s optional features I would never even touch then ehh whatever.
My oven has an app, don’t care what it does and will never use it.
It’s basically what the Eero line of routers does, you can’t configure it without the app, and there’s no web UI.
I’m still more confident in Eero than Motorola to not fuck it up, yet I returned that shit back and bought a GL.iNet instead.
Lol I have almost the same experience. I tried Eero. Never mind that it had literally only one LAN port. You also had to do everything on a mobile app, without any options to modify stuff under the hood. It was also detecting phantom devices and dropping my actual devices from wifi. When I contacted support, I discovered during troubleshooting they had live visibility of my network. I switched to a basic, traditional Netgear router after that, and now I’m using a GL.Inet (openwrt) router as well.
Even worse is that you can’t even split the 2.4GHz and 5GHz into different SSIDs.
Surely easier for the average person, but it sucks if you have some stubborn devices that tend to prefer 2.4GHz over 5GHz for no good reason.
My fiber install last year came with a “free” eero router, I sent it back.
My fiber install this year came with one, this time I refused to let them install it.
Until they push a software update to your device to force using the app for basic features…
How do they push out an update to something that I will never connect to?
That is the way to prevent it.
But, frustratingly, most people who have one will probably connect it to the internet just because that’s what the manual says to do during the set up procedure.
It’s getting harder to find devices that don’t insist on being connected.
Where are you finding users who read the manual? Wish we had more of those…
This is completely unrelated but you said “suspicious permissions” and triggered my need to moan about not being allowed to make or join teams calls (since last year, I think?) unless you give Microsoft a list of all devices on your network. Fuck you microsoft and your dogshit apps