• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    oh wait…that shitty service that thousands of people complained about is doing something even worse?!

    well I’ll just boycott them when it’s convenient…

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    ugh I host my domains with them, but probably high time I switched away :/

    edit: and done! switched to a local host :)

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    “we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers”

    God, I hate corpo-speak so much.

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      I recently had to listen to our glorious CEO (who totally isn’t a nepo failson) about the company being bought out (so yeah I’m getting fired within 2 years for sure) and it was just him furiously jacking off, thinking he sounded smart with all of his ivy corpo speak.

      At a certain point I was like “you know, maybe violence IS the answer”

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      Sounds to me they will be charging more for their services. Or do I need to purposely misunderstand the statement to be useless?

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    So much greed.

    No wonder most of us give a fuck about our company. Why should I care if I am nothing more than a number that is unfortunately not a robot.

    Working could be to just create something good and do so in a community with like minded people. And if it earns enough money to pay everyone’s comfortable life needs then that is enough.

    That they constantly force growth is just the most toxic bullshit imaginable.

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    That tracks. Cloudflare was probably overdue to make a good solid run at grabbing defeat out of the jaws of success.

    Edit: Hijacking this to answer the question on some of our minds:

    “What was the name of that open source alternative I was able to ignore while CloudFlare was actually doing their job?”

    It’s Anubis

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    we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers

    🤮

    The MBAs have won.

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      … or to get all these cupcake recipes. If all that matters not to get fired is active agents…

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      This is like measuring a carpenter’s work output by how much they use their hammer, not how much gets actually built. I hope every company that does this sorta bullshit goes belly up.

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        Using their hammer would be the tools they use to actually code. This is more like measuring a carpenter’s work by how often they get advice from the workers at Home Depot.

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        It strikes me that it’s probably because of all the visibity it offers them into what people are doing and drives them to interact with the chatbot instead of each other. Not everything is about having productive workers. A lot of it is about finding people who are compliant suck ups who won’t question the boss no matter what and eliminating anyone with a half a brain cell and an ounce of class solidarity.

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          It’s about training their replacement. The more that they are forced to use it, the faster it will learn all of their jobs.

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      Having AI do your commits is a great way to game the system. Gives the added benefit of making it look like the AI wrote it for you as well.

  • vratajin@piefed.social
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    Less money for middle class and more money for investors owning Nvidia, OpenAI, Anthropic.
    Make no mistake about what’s happening, that’s wealth transfer from the bottom to the top.

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      And with how this particular AI technology only works by consuming all of the internet’s and our libraries’ data … it’s not just a transfer, it’s pretty much theft.

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        Funny, this is the same cloudflare that harasses me every time I open a new tab on certain websites to check that I’m not a bot…

        How ironic…

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          Interestingly, I don’t think I share this sentiment.

          I’m no fan and personally don’t use AI (I barely touched it early ChatGPT days). But people use it to do things in successful fulfilment of their initial purpose.

          I’ve seen it. Maybe I’ve seen the successes and not the failures in some cases. And I’ve certainly seen badly failed attempts to use it, but in those cases I’m happy to ascribe the failure substantially to a misapplication of the tool (which to be fair certainly invites gross misapplication).

          My point though is that I don’t think an absolutist “AI is never useful” position is persuasive any more nor absolutely accurate.

          Which, in my view, makes addressing the “rest of the situation” all the more fundamental. Indeed, I think everything g other than its efficacy was always the important part.

          Part of the problem is that ethical arguments are difficult for people and many just switch off when it comes to the common good. Which is all of course part of the problem too.

          But I think that’s gravity of the situation right now: our collective instincts may be misaligned for the moment. Our personal habits vulnerable from our prior corruptions. And our societal architectures already mutated, perhaps beyond repair, and therefore ill equipped for this.

          Doomy, yes, but you’ve got to fight the fight you’re in, not the one you’d wish you’d won.

          Another way I could put this counter, is that I feel like so much of what’s bad about AI was bad before AI, and that society from 2005-2020 badly mishandled technology. Whether AI “works” or not doesn’t matter. So long as it can fit into the same shape and meet the same urges that tech did 2005-2020, it will be adopted. But if the consequences of its adoption are graver than what came before, then the whole stack of that history needs to be addressed.

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        Uhh… All shareholders get wealthier when the stock price goes up, there’s no magic mechanism where it’s only majority shareholders.

        Obviously majority shareholders will make even more, but they all profit from it. I’m not even American and my retirement fund jumped up decently from the S&P 500 going up. Though now I’ve exited from the US ETFs completely. Only Europe and Asia now.

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    Every company that fires people for AI is going to regret it so much in the long run…

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      not if they all got thier golden parachutes, they treat it as an endgame, just run it like a PE firm and move on.

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      They’ve already had a spate of serious, unprecedented outages affecting half the internet.

      So I guess that means the only place to go from there is to double down, eh?

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      No one is firing workers for AI. They’re correcting the size of their workforce after decades of overhiring and using AI as an excuse — to make it look like a good, forward-looking business decision, instead of showing that it’s fixing a mistake that went on for so long.

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        I wonder if stockholders could sue after the stock tanks/profit dips because it turns out those laid off employees weren’t actually replaced by AI?

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        sounds like a troll, but they started massively laying off since 2023, both my bros were affected severely, and then the company my older bro got bought off down the line. im in a tech hub in the west, and all they are peddling in the tech conference is all AI related, before it use to be a variety of software/tech, now its the same tech with more AI.

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        Nah I’m sorry you’re dead wrong. My last job we straight up got rid of 95% of our HR department and all of our interns and were replaced with ChatGPT Enterprise licenses. Then they laid off the graphic design department and left just the head of the department and 2 staff. Then I was laid off alongside over half of the IT department.

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          both of my bros suffered job loss, or "sidelined indefnitely. one got layed off since 23, and the current one have been “on the bench” since last year.

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            On the bench takes me back to Accenture days. What a horrible time.

            I’m sorry for your bros :/ I hope they find something soon. I’m rooting for them

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          If your company did indeed lay off 95% of HR and replaced it with ChatGPT you need to find another job somewhere like now. They are about two lawsuits from not existing.

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            Had you read all the words in my comment, you’d see I’m no longer at that job.

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              Yep I missed that part, sorry. Good for you. Well not the being played off part. Hopefully you found more employment. But companies like this are toxic at best, or just downright stupid.

              I’ve had the misfortune of working for companies during the dotcom boom that had horrible business plans that I was lucky enough to leave before the bottom fell out.

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                No worries! I did find employment not too far after but it definitely doesn’t pay anywhere near the same or provide nearly as good benefits but given the job market, I’m lucky to be employed.

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          I understand what you were told, but none of those functions are being replaced by AI, they functionally cannot be.

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        Tons of people are getting fired because the owners think AI can replace them. Doesn’t mean the AI can do the work properly, but they are getting fired anyway.

        I know a person that works at an AI startup and they convinced a company to replace their HR department with AI a while back. Funnily enough, that startup’s “AI” is largely “Actually Indians.” Their service is an agent that writes its own “tools” to solve problems/complete tasks, but the tools often don’t work, so they have a large team of devs in India rewrite them or do the tasks.

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          I heard Agentic is a codework for Humans actually, and Indians/south america, eastern europeans are the ones actually controlling the AI systems.

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    A bit ironic they offer a service to keep away AI bots from scanning websites, but say AI use is making them so productive they have to lay people off.

    So AI bad or good? Getting whiplashed here.

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      I’ve recently found it ironic that cloudfire classifies me as human based on how I sort AI generated images, presumably as judged by AI.

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      keep away AI bots from scanning websites

      Specifically: Scrapers operated by individuals rather than big, important companies. On one hand, this significantly cuts down on the volume of scraping. On the other, it restricts control of the AI market to a select class of people who are important enough to get by the bot protection.

      The root problem, obviously, is that the “AI market” is generally directed at that select class.

      AI bad or good?

      AI good. Non-rich people bad.

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      The main selling point of that feature is to charge for access to scraping websites.

      They don’t care that your website gets scraped, they care about getting paid when someone does it.

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      Obviously, its a non-binary answer.

      Besides which, why wouldnt they make money preventing other people from scraping websites, while scraping the traffic that flows through their network.