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The tech bros are pushing the “AI dangerous” narrative because it not only hypes the tech, but allows them to position themselves as the “safe option” compared to competing open models that they’d like to see kneecapped with regulation.
In reality, tech bros and corrupt governments are the reason why AI is dangerous because they’re using it to build a digital cage to spy on the populace and control the flow of information.
This is the classic Problem-Reaction-Solution technique.
They (the AI companies) want you to be scared of AI because if you realize it’s just fancy auto-complete, you’ll realize it’s not worth several trillion dollars and the bubble might pop.
I want you to be scared of AI because it’s just fancy auto-complete; people are letting fancy auto-complete write scripts and are then just running those scripts without vetting them, and that’s going to lead to disaster.
We are not the same.
you’ll realize it’s not worth several trillion dollars and the bubble might pop.
No lay employee sending bad vibes at FartGPT will scuff the paint on the latest data center.
Now, if Larry Fink gets bearish on AI, that’s a problem. God fucking help the industry if Larry Ellison stops plowing Oracle debt into Altman’s voracious appetite for compute.
But nobody on Lemmy has any impact on the price of the auction price of a stick of RAM, much less the multi-trillion dollar AI market cap.
You worded my own meme better than me
Memes don’t work so well when there’s a paragraph of text. My version might be a good meme if I could somehow boil that down to a few words, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
I’m afraid of the tech bros and nepotism hired ceos firing everyone for greed and then ruining our economy. The middle and lower classes are going to pick up the bill. We are not the same.
Well, that too.
And the shredded books and the datacenters and the environmental effects, let’s not forget those.
That too and I just want to be able to afford a pair of 2tb nvme.
I just pulled 3 old drives out of my now-defunct gaming tower so I can try to build a media server. An old NVMe 128GB Agility 4 drive, and 2 old ass HDDs. I also have an 8TB drive I can shuck from its box. All because new drives are so goddamn overpriced.
I’ve got plenty of storage (around 50tb total) but only 1tb of nvme storage that I would like to expand. Unfortunately I am very space limited so setting up a second computer for a media server isn’t an option and my main pc also serves that purpose. Having a large media library also means I have almost 300gb of metadata to worry about.
Well this happens with any big technology innovation, jobs become redundant and are therefore removed. We have to remember however that economy as a whole, and with that jobs. Are a human construction, we create jobs for ourselfs so we can be part of a collective that at least theoretically works together.
So we will just create new jobs or things for us to do. Even when we reach singularity.
You obviously don’t know your history. Do you think these people didn’t want to “create new jobs?”
Whom do you mean?
The people in the great depression. Hell, just go back to the 2008 crisis when tons of people lost their homes to banks who now own a huge chunk of our housing.
Which technology caused the great depression? Same with 2008-crisis? Weren’t both of them caused by inflated house prices?
I’m a “tech bro” (lady) and I can not with AI anymore. It’s dumb guys! If you ask it for something it can google, fine, but if it’s a little more complex it will mess it up. Even doing a simple app interface (I was kind of forced to uss AI to do it) it was a PAIN. It took me a lot longer because I had to keep correcting it
The gap between googling and making an interface that you like is a bit wider than “a little”. And really it can do good stuff. I was able to develop a world class filling degree simulation based on existing ideas and how to improve them. No way could I have programmed that in any reasonable timeframe. That does not mean it is good in every way, please no straw.
I use ChaptGPT now and then and it works great except for one task: “find me this pic or video”. One would think after training on all the things it would excel at this first and foremost. Nope. Trying to find an old cracked.com article took 25 minutes, but it finally found it in a university archive. It kept giving me links to wrong articles or 404s. Looking for an old, popular meme and it had a fit. I finally prompted, “show me whatever you think it might be”, you stupid fuck. Couldn’t do it, finally found it on Google image search.
I honestly can’t figure out vibe coding. How are people making even the simplest app?! I fed a very short PowerShell script of mine into Claude to see if there was a way to speed it up. Nope. It hosed it all the fuck up. ChatGPT has never spit working code for me, only good for getting a new idea or reminder of a different tack to try.
That’s because the text part and the image part are two separate systems. ChatGPT can’t actually ‘see’ the pictures. It passes it off to a different system, like Stable Diffusion.
Imagine you are talking to a blind guy in a box, but you don’t know he’s blind, and you ask him to find you a picture of whatnots. He says ‘sure, I can do that, of course’ and then looks up in his braile dictionary what whatnots are. After this he knocks on the box next to him where his friend is, who can see, and describes whatnots.
His friend passes him the picture and he passes it to you. It’s actually a picture of whatchamacallits.
“This isn’t a whatnot. This picture has a dongle, it’s supposed to have a dangle.”
“Oh, of course, you’re so right to call this picture out, let me try again.”
And so on. That’s why it constantly prompts you to describe more so it can pass fine tuned descriptors to the imager, but it has no idea what the picture is you want or if what he gives you is correct.
It’s smart enough to fly a drone and return it to base for a recharge.
It’s smart enough to detect/track a human.
I’m far less worried that it might decide to kill us and WAY more worried that someone who owns the AI/Drones will use it to kill us.
It’s smart enough to fly a drone and return it to base for a recharge.
These tools are consistently just proxies for cheap overseas manual labor. AI is consistently augmented by mirrored human actions and often just a fascade - a juiced up mechanical turk.
WAY more worried that someone who owns the AI/Drones will use it to kill us.
If Lavendar AI is any indication of how these tools will be used, they are far more often employed as propaganda - whitewashing war crimes by generating fake accusations of imminent danger and intelligence data.
You’ll still be killed by a human. Maybe a manual operator. Maybe a human guided missile. Maybe just some asshole with a gun.
The AI will then fabricate the reason for your murder and feed it to the bureaucracy that helps pacify anyone who might object to your death.
that someone who owns the AI/Drones will use it to kill us.
Or that they’ll just be lazy and sloppy.
In movies you used to sometimes see someone put a brick on a car’s gas pedal so they could send it through a wall, or into a lake, or whatever. In a comedy, you sometimes used to see someone rig up something so that their car could drive while they slept.
Running AI “agents” is basically like opening up some application that has a lot of keyboard shortcuts to run various scripts and then putting a brick on the keyboard.
Unfortunately, we’re now at a stage where some people think that’s a good idea. The machines aren’t capable of thought, they have no desires or goals. But, if some of those scripts instruct a drone to go out and kill someone, the brick on the keyboard can get someone killed.
The machines aren’t capable of thought
They aren’t, but they do a damn good job at reading inputs, following a document of instructions, and using control output.
Setting a waypoint, retrieving imagery, using machine vision to identify a human is an easily wrote task.
Having Claude code write an app to run on a pc to do all that is trivial.
The other stuff is just something the military already does redily
I’m scared of AI because people unable to read and comprehend are asking it philosophical questions using words like pretend, feelings and who/what is good enough then thinking it’s answer is correct.
What should specifically scare him is the pervasive low quality of management that insists on jamming AI into processes it’s not ready for or even appropriate for.
Precisely what I’m talking about.
I don’t think it’s too smart, I think it’s a waste of resources for what it is: a scam.
The new Bitcoin…
It’s called doomtrolling. Pass it on!
Cory Doctorow calls it “criti-hype” (a term he defines as repeating a company’s marketing material and adding “and that’s bad” at the end), but I gotta say I like this better
Pretty much. AI won’t kill all of of us because it’s smart, but because it concentrates too much power into systems that are not aligned with humanity’s best interest, and we dont have the means to resist it. Matthew Butterick argues it particularly well. Of course though, his argument is a challenge to the authority of these companies to develop these AIs, not a calling for the enlightened tech bros to guide humanity on the fragile path utopia. The folks developing AI could probably learn a thing or two from history.
Why does this still read as a class war problem?
Because if we, the masses, let things go the way they are, it will kill everyone. If the rest of us rise up against the planet and child rapists, they will be probably be killed. That’s the hope and their fear, anyway
It won’t kill us because it sees us as a threat, it’ll kill us because it sees us as a crop of cabbages that it was asked to harvest
It’ll kill us all because some jackass deployed LLM generation code into production without reading it first and the combine harvester’s brake stopped working because a dialog box was open on the dashboard
I hate how exactly right you are.
Someone at least please promise to put how the AI kills me on my grave, as a warning to future sentient life not to be as stupid as we were.
I’m scared of the capitalist control of the world’s resources, “AI” included, and every waking moment my fears are vindicated.
Fear and disgust are very different things.
I feel a little of both. Though I primarily feel fear because none of the adults I talk to can see through the facade and understand that AI is currently harmful, no matter what you are using it for.
I am personally saving lifes with AI, AI is not only LLMs.
“Ummm ackshully AI is an incredibly broad field that–” come the fuck on. You know damn well what I meant.
I gave you a scenario where it is not harmful, even LLMs brings a lot to the usability of tools etc. Sure currently it is very costly, but framing it as little to no benefit is disingenous.
Muddling the terms don’t help anyone. We call new thing AI every five years, and it’s not helping.
If anything I am clarifying the terms, but you are correct that is does not matter. Even if we call all of it AI, there are still clear benefits to the whole technology.
You clarified the terms by using the same word to name several wildly unconnected pieces of software. Yeah, if we also call sliced bread AI, the whole AI business will start to look like the best thing since… hm, can’t think of analogy right now, it will come to me.
I don’t believe you.
I mean you can just google AI projects in healthcare. I am in one of them! :D
