Unless you use Fedora Atomic distros, then you do need to reboot.
Rarely. Definitely much less than I anyway switch off the computer.
Huh?
On Atomic distros you need to reboot everytime you update the system or install anything into an overlay…
On other systems you can mostly just restart services and programs, as long as they aren’t the kernel, and likely pid 1.
(Arguable kexec can be considered a reboot.)
I can’t find the original image but here’s a decent one someone posted somewhere else lol:
Wow gotta print that thanx for posting!
I don’t understand people who don’t turn off the computers. Like why does it need to be on when you’re not using it. Linux boots up almost instantly nowadays. And you can save your session so everything is exactly where you left it if that’s what you’re worried about
Woah, what about your uptime? Gotta pump up those numbers!
My longest running machine at the moment:
00:31:08 up 378 days, 5:12, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00My old raspberry pi 1b, which I use as an audio server for my stereo receiver. I typically have 4-5 machines running at any time performing various network-related tasks. I keep user terminals up as well, if they don’t consume much (<=10w). GPU hogs get put to sleep.
Because I fail to configure wake-on-lan and such and I sometimes want remote access to it. I do have cron put it to sleep in low-hours and wake up next day…
Your toilet has a door? Mine uses a lid
I.mean, I love Linux but I do need to reboot often.
I don’t need to reboot, I can leave it on however long I want. I just don’t want to figure out which services need restarting, so they all get restarted.
Don’t forget to restart the kernal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL
We have surpassed 8 bit by now, you should upgrade.
I only reboot when I want to as well. Usually about once every 2 weeks. I check for updates and then reboot to update the kernel.
yeah, same :')
Sick! We need more Linux stickers.
Is this a dig at the current minor Gnome 50 drama with the Log-Out button…?
Do tell. What’s this drama?
The TL;DR I remember is that over a decade ago, someone who works on Gnome has decided that a machine with only a single user and a single DE does not need to have a “Log Out” button by default - when people mentioned that logging out of a user is still useful to reload settings, the response was that “just rebooting is fine in that case”. Thing is, no one actually noticed those changes until now, because with the X11/Wayland switch, every environment was technically running two DEs and had the logout button. But now with Gnome 50, the switch was completed and the Logout button disappeared for many people (as technically intended, but that feature was implemented so long ago that even a lot of current Gnome devs were confused by it)
Lol. Typical Gnome fuckery. What a bunch of fuckwits.
I stopped using it 20 or 25 years ago because of stuff like this, and they keep doing it, release after release. I’ve no idea why users put up with it.
Excellent. Where can I get these stickers?
No idea unfortunately
Officially, I’m not sure.
But Linux is open source, so you can just print out the image above and slap some double sided tape on it…
Bonus points if you straighten out the mild trapezoid distortion and maybe apply a little contrast on it using GIMP. 🐧
The fact that the Linux source code license is open doesn’t give permission to another work about Linux.
An analogy would be a park - you can use it, go running, etc with no issues. But if you setup your easel and make a painting of the park, that painting is an original creative work, and it is protected under copyright laws.
The same for that sticker. Even with the image of Tux being made “free” (attribution) by its creator, this stylized combination of drawing and text is still copyrighted, so we’d have to ask their permission for the stickers.
I’m sure whoever created this really cares.
That’s unrelated to OPs point that because Linux is FOSS, so is the drawing. As an advocate for open source, I try to clear up this kind of confusion.
If the creator of this sticker was worried about posting their username, I’m sure they probably would have…
Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean.
You’re saying that if the creator of the sticker wanted to be recognized or was concerned about others making use of his design without his approval, he’d have signed it or added his username? That isn’t necessary, you still own the rights to a work you made even if you don’t sign it - including the right to give it away and allow free use, but that’s a right that needs to be exercised.
For example, Linux source code is free, for any use (as per the GPL). The name “Linux”, however, is a trademark, registered by Linus in the US and other places, and it’s usage is protected (the Linux foundation has a page about it).
I don’t think anyone’s gonna be mad about stickers, the point I was trying to make was about what FOSS means in the context of Linux and software in general, but also how it relates to other forms of intellectual property protection.
Seems like some made it on a t-shirt, although it probably comes from irc or a forum I guess.
Cool, but to be fair Linux is made to not make you root.
In most cases a sysadmin somewhere is root, and you may only pledge to him by email and wait weeks for when he decides you waited long enough for a reply.
User permissions are quite strict in Linux.
I’m still pissed there is no way for a user to decide to open a shared folder to other users which enforces base permissions without root doing that.
I’m still pissed there is no way for a user to decide to open a shared folder to other users which enforces base permissions without root doing that.
can’t you?
you can assign a preexisting group to a folder as a secondary owner. or you can do it per-user with ACLs
Tried ACL, it kind of works. However users first respect the creation umask, which is generally 022. Which means they can create files in my directory but I can not delete them.
You can force everyone working with you to set their umask to 000, which clearly is not a really nice solution. However, even this does not solve the problem, since if they copy anything over which does not have 666 permissions then you can not edit it or delete it.
Then you’re stuck with a bunch of files by someone else who left you their things that you can not delete.
I still have 1 TB of stuff somewhere from a user which has long been deleted from the system, I have no other way to delete that stuff than contact the system administrator.
You can assign a group and then set permissions to 660 and do some ACL magic which hopefully works to enforce a umask of 0 on group; however you can not create a group without being root, which does not really solve the problem.
To be fair, I would appreciate if users were allowed to create their own groups.
Mind you, on my own Linux machine I can become root while on Windows all I can be is someone with admin rights (but subordinate to SYSTEM).
Unless IT has blocked it you should have share options for your Public Folder. At least that’s how it was when we ran it at a company. Every user had access to their own public share to share as needed. It was part of the Unix Model.
Never have I seen a public folder on a Linux system, neither personal nor the ones I use for work.
Either way, it would not solve the problem of me myself deciding to share a folder with a set of selected people who can write files in the folder which I then can modify or delete.
I can get to the point of them reading, modifying and creating new files; but the fact that I can not delete files by someone else in my own folders really pisses me off.
All the Linux installs I’ve done have a public folder in the user home directory as default.
And for example in Gnome settings you turn on the sharing option/password.
I realize that doesn’t give you samba sharing with user name access though.
If you use a TV as a monitor, you will reboot often.
Why?
It most likely a known issue. If I walk away for some amount of time, sometimes a few hours, sometimes overnight, I come back to a blank screen and totally unresponsive machine. It’s something to do with the power and sleep mode signals confused between the TV and the graphics card.
Ime Linux doesn’t handle power saving mode gracefully for basically any hardware. I normally disable it when I do a new install
Power button sends shutdown/startup signal through HDMI.
I just started unplugging it when I turn it off.
You can ignore these HDMI-CEC instructions to make your pc sleep instead. I’ve configured this before but I’m currently on a phone and too intoxicated to look it up.
I read this in Arnold Schwarzenegger’s voice.
I want that on a T-shirt
Have I got great news for you.
How legit is this site? Considering the purchase. Lol
there was a bot pandemic on reddit several years ago. where when people commented “I want this on a shirt” and similar phrase, bots will reply with random links selling shirts with somehow that exact design appear on the reddit post.
nowadays it still gives me redflag vibes when someone ask such question about design & t-shirt and replied with a link 💀
Not a bot, I swear.
I was looking for the sticker for myself, and only found the redbubble shirts. Strangely, the “designer” only put it on shirts - typically redbubble people will slap their shit on everything - mousepads, mugs, shirts, sweaters, you name it.
I see! I apologize for assuming you a bot
Meh? Redbubble is very adequate for things like this. The shirts aren’t super great quality - but if you really want the shirt badly, they have shipped shirts and mugs to me in the past.
Just be real careful washing (cold, delicate, and inside out) and for the love of God hang to dry.
Copy Fail
Ironic. Most Linux desktop distros now don’t set up a root password, and they make you reboot after many updates.
Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”, and not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment. Typically, the latter can also be handled on the command line, and the reboot suggestion is for less tech savvy users
Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”
They tell the user to reboot, and they don’t phrase it like it is optional. It’s been a while since I’ve used Ubuntu, for example, but my memory is that they say that a reboot is required, or something along those lines. There is nothing wrong with my using the phrase “make you reboot” for those cases.
not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment.
When I was using Ubuntu, I’d get a reboot request like once every couple of weeks to a month. Maybe you don’t think that’s “many updates”, but the point of the sticker was obviously to compare to other operating systems, and in that regard, it was similar to Windows, probably more frequent.
Would you prefer a long winded explanation of which services need to be restart and what it means that your kernel version was updated along with a description of kexec and when/how to use it? I think it makes more sense to recommend a reboot and let people who know those lower level details do as they please.
Ok two things here:
- don’t use Ubuntu, canonical began enshittification years ago
- automatic updates will trigger more frequent reboots - and are typically not a good idea in my humble opinion
They’re probably talking about offline updates, which are used by Fedora and Ubuntu. They do require you to reboot to apply the updates.
Logging in as the root user hasn’t been the way to “be root” on Linux systems in decades. sudo/doas/whatever are there for that purpose and you can use those to set a root password if you want. This isn’t ironic at all and you have full control of your system.
Do you understand the idea of how reading something in context is different from taking it out of context? The sticker is bragging about how Linux is better than Windows, but the specific things they called out are virtually indistinguishable from Windows. That’s the irony. They were essentially saying, “Pick Linux over Windows because of these two things that it does the same as Windows.” It’s similar to how your comment is ironic, confidently explaining something incorrectly.
Please tell me which
The only one I saw is Fedora, and that’s it. Even with something like Silver blue you can Live-apply the updates
Ubuntu forces reboots constantly
I’ve used Fedora for ages and it has never forced a reboot.
