• BillyClark@piefed.social
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    24 hours ago

    Ironic. Most Linux desktop distros now don’t set up a root password, and they make you reboot after many updates.

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      23 hours ago

      Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”, and not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment. Typically, the latter can also be handled on the command line, and the reboot suggestion is for less tech savvy users

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        23 hours ago

        Make you reboot? More like “suggest a reboot”

        They tell the user to reboot, and they don’t phrase it like it is optional. It’s been a while since I’ve used Ubuntu, for example, but my memory is that they say that a reboot is required, or something along those lines. There is nothing wrong with my using the phrase “make you reboot” for those cases.

        not after “many updates” bit after installing a new kernel or graphics drivers on a running graphical desktop environment.

        When I was using Ubuntu, I’d get a reboot request like once every couple of weeks to a month. Maybe you don’t think that’s “many updates”, but the point of the sticker was obviously to compare to other operating systems, and in that regard, it was similar to Windows, probably more frequent.

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          18 hours ago

          Would you prefer a long winded explanation of which services need to be restart and what it means that your kernel version was updated along with a description of kexec and when/how to use it? I think it makes more sense to recommend a reboot and let people who know those lower level details do as they please.

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          21 hours ago

          Ok two things here:

          1. don’t use Ubuntu, canonical began enshittification years ago
          2. automatic updates will trigger more frequent reboots - and are typically not a good idea in my humble opinion
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        21 hours ago

        They’re probably talking about offline updates, which are used by Fedora and Ubuntu. They do require you to reboot to apply the updates.

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      18 hours ago

      Logging in as the root user hasn’t been the way to “be root” on Linux systems in decades. sudo/doas/whatever are there for that purpose and you can use those to set a root password if you want. This isn’t ironic at all and you have full control of your system.

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        17 hours ago

        Do you understand the idea of how reading something in context is different from taking it out of context? The sticker is bragging about how Linux is better than Windows, but the specific things they called out are virtually indistinguishable from Windows. That’s the irony. They were essentially saying, “Pick Linux over Windows because of these two things that it does the same as Windows.” It’s similar to how your comment is ironic, confidently explaining something incorrectly.

    • Luffy@lemmy.ml
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      23 hours ago

      Please tell me which

      The only one I saw is Fedora, and that’s it. Even with something like Silver blue you can Live-apply the updates