• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    7 days ago

    You’re against circumcision because you believe it causes autism.

    I’m against circumcision because I believe genitally mutilating non-consenting infants is an atrocity.

    We are not the same.

    • Sludge@sh.itjust.works
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      Agree and all, but to add - I road bike and run ultra marathons. When doing super long distances, you’re gonna end up chafing a bit (probably). I would much rather my foreskin get the rub as opposed to THE SENSITIVE TIP OF MY DICK.

      You know what really hurts? Water hitting raw skin that’s been rubbed in shorts or a bike bib for 4+ hours.

      I’m sure it will have negative long term impacts to my ability to be stimulated.

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        Yeah, something a lot of people don’t realize is that circumcized dicks lose a lot of sensitivity due to the excessive friction they go endure throughout each day just by moving around normally.

        I read somewhere that intact dicks are basically a mucus membrane underneath the foreskin. That’s wild, my dick skin is more like the skin on the back of my hand. No wonder people are so obsessed with sex, it must feel so damn good for uncircumcised people. Something I’ll never experience. Damn religion.

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    No but it is cruel and a gross violation of bodily autonomy that should have huge amounts of jail time attached.

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      Thank goodness my parents said they would rather have left that choice to me when I was old enough. As an adult, why the fuck would I get circumsized unless you have a specific reason to do it?

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        I’m jealous that your parents cared enough to let you decide. I wish mine had done the same.

        As for why you would do it willingly I don’t know either.

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          I got the last laugh. I was cut as a newborn, but I still didn’t end up with the parts my parents wanted. They took a little snip. I went for the full origami of gender reassignment surgery. 🤣

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          A friend of mine did it for medical reasons. His foreskin was too tight to pull back, which made it really hard to clean, and I think there were some other problems associated with it as well.

          I’ve never heard about an adult getting circumcised as an adult for religious reasons, but I’m sure some people do it.

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          I’ve heard that a lot. I’ve even had someone approach me after taking a public shower before and try to strike up a conversation about my bits. Sorry about your bits, brother.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Who… how could… what?

    … ah.

    “Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears,” says senior author Monica McGrath, research professor in the Bloomberg School’s Department of Epidemiology…

    Ah ok I understand now.

    “Parents”.

    Bigotry against autists is so extreme that idiot religious extremists will actually consider one of their more barbaric, senseless, cherished traditions as negotiable, relative to the utter ‘horror’ of their children potentially being autistic.

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        6 days ago

        One way or another, they just can’t help but to cut you down and fit you into one of their simple little boxes they understand.

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    OK but it is still a barbaric practice and I don’t see why we allow it. Just because it is culturally accepted does not make it OK.

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      It’s such a weird thing to do a study on in 2026 given how many thousands of years of data we already have. Like if it made any difference at all it definitely would have been spotted by at least Roman times.

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    Can we spread a lie that it does ?

    Idk what else will stop people from mutilating their child’s genitals.

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      Culture needs to be developed where parents are explicitly asked are they mutalating their kids and feel the social pressure.

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        In the UK, the way they made it go out of fashion is make it so the national health insurance didn’t cover it anymore.

        I think that could work here.

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          Wait one thing american insurance has no problem covering is penis mutilation? Looking at this more - it is true though not covered by medicaid or if you’re an adult. How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this but my bad here for trying to rationally explain this.

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            How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this

            Jeezus said so, that’s why.

            If you keep digging and playing an adult game of “why?” you eventually come to that “reasoning.” It’s ultimately why we can’t have nice things because religion falls to critical thinking skills, falls to history, falls to literature, and falls to the scientific method.

            It’s like any other group of people: it’s held up by people who’ve “paid their dues” and need younger people to buy into the system and feed it so the older folks can coast through the end of their life. The system is brutal to people who don’t conform. They usually end up expelled from the group and left without resources to build back up again. It’s why there are whole other support groups, as an example, to get people out of the LDS sphere of influence.

            And by the way, to you good people helping folks escape from the LDS: you would do well to read all the stories about whole chinese police departments working in North America, and what’s going on with Flock, and LLMs gathering up data, and it all being available for purchase. I hope your OPSEC is up to having that light shined on you.

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            That’s a good point. It won’t stop Jewish parents. I feel like it would be hard to make it illegal without making a religious exception. But that’s what needs to happen.

            I don’t see it as any different than female genital mutilation, which is banned and illegal in most countries. Most people seem to be in agreement that it’s not acceptable. Regardless of religion or cultural views of the individuals doing it. Why is this not applied to boys?

            I mean, I personally think allowing harm based on religion is just opening the door for any crime.

            “12 year old girls have to first have sex with an older male in their family because it’s part of our religious beliefs”

            You can literally make up any horrors and say your religion requires it.

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    What? Who are these people that were even linking these two things? I’m actually shocked I can still be surprised by stupidity.

    They should still stop doing it though.

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    Tell the religious people that circumcision causes trans women. At least that one could make sense to someone who’s afraid of trans people.

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        I think so. There are also some intersex people who were “modified” as a baby to be female, but heaven forbid waiting for the child to at least be cognizant.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      I mean, I guess, looking at it with our modern understanding. I look at it like leeches - which were once viewed as a way of helping people get healthier, but then we figured out that was wrong.

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        With circumcision we knew it wasn’t for ‘hygiene’ for quite a long time lol. It’s about masturbation. They want men to not be cranking it. They still will tho, that’s the lie that everyone knows and everyone just pretends they don’t. But it’s always been about men jacking it. Can’t be petting the snake with God watching.

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          Uh, I don’t think that’s why most modern parents go for it. The reason I’ve heard is “so he looks like his father does.”

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            Do men typically show it to their kids? Why would it matter to the child?

            What if the kid has curly hair after the mother’s parents? Would they shave it too?

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              I mean typically I imagine a child sees the parents penis at some point. Either having a bath with the or walking in on them going to the bathroom or even going to the bathroom with them.

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            My mom, an RN, had me mutilated because “it reduces the risk of transmitting HPV”.