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Yea, ok bud. Go argue the obvious with someone else.

Nobody did. You’re arguing against a point nobody made.

Or maybe I don’t have knowledge and experience in EU law and didn’t want to pretend I do.

Nothing in that reply is even close to anything I’ve said. Don’t waste my time with stupidity or strawmen.

You aren’t wrong, but this discussion is mostly about edge cases. The average person, yea, they won’t have anything that is end of their world if a bad guy accesses it. But, that does mean there aren’t many phones that contain significantly more important data than you have.

My comment was in reply to another saying a bad guy can force you to put your finger on the unlock sensor. There is no equivalent for pins.

They can threaten, yes, and you can give into that threat. Yes, that would be against your will, but it still requires you to acquiesce or cooperate was my point. The can’t get the pin without you giving it.

Do any phones even allow 4 digit Pins? Apple doesn’t, and my Samsung doesn’t.

No one can force you to give up the PIN. They can threaten, and you may give in to that threat. But that isn’t forcing, that isn’t against your will.

But, a criminal can get you to unlock your phone with biometrics against your will easily enough - brute strength, render you unconscious, or even dead.

You assume that you are conscious, or even alive in your scenario.

Definitely not. The average thief can get you to unlock it with your face or finger far easier than get your PIN.

I can’t speak for OP, but in the US, you can be compelled to unlock a phone via fingerprint or face ID. You can’t be compelled to give over your PIN. That violates the right against self incriminating.

If my phone isn’t working, I ain’t seeing this headline.

Why they have to insult Bozo the Clown like that?

Only one team working to make Teams worse???