I’m still not sure I follow what group counts as liberal on different parts of Lemmy, but does liberal to you include e.g. democratic socialists? Social democrats? Non-revolutionary socialist orgs?
Or are liberals free-market small-state types?
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It was not at all meant as a gotcha. Let me reformulate: “Which issues in particular are you referring to? The class struggle leads to a plethora of important societal issues to address, and I am interested in hearing some particular examples. One such example could be the issue of unionisation, which holds a great deal of nuance across political contexts around the world, and therefore is a particularly interesting microcosm of this topic.”
If I had known that my question would be understood as hostile, I would certainly have put in more time to clarify what I meant. I’m still not sure why my question is hostile?
Can we not discuss like adults?
As in whether it should be owned by the workers, or whether it can be seized through non-violent means?
Fuck Zionists, but surely it’s bigger than that.
Issues like what? Unionisation?
Damn right, fuck war and fuck imperialists.
By the way,
you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas
Got a link? My leftist group chat doesn’t believe this, and I can’t find anything myself that’s not obviously doctored.
Thanks, uh, I’m not SkyezOpen. Sorry if I interrupted your conversation.
Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia
you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas
So you’re saying that on OP’s infographic we should be supporting neither Ukraine or Russia? Or should we be slightly to the right on the Russia-Ukraine axis because it’s better to support a capitalist oligarch using Nazi rhetoric than not supporting anyone?
Is that the right fallacy? What’s the strawman?
I agree.
But the working class struggle that the comment mentioned is of course bigger than the genocide. Since they mentioned it, I wanted to learn more about their position. Discussing socialism and unionisation in the context of the class struggle does not diminish the genocide in Palestine.