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  • KimBongUn420@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlyeah, I'm a centrist
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    23 hours ago

    I don’t think that’s the issue here, no, at least from what I can understand but I admit I am kinda confused about what you’re asking me here.

    The liberal (or Western) view often posits a universal, procedural democracy (multi-party elections, civil liberties, etc.) as intrinsically good, and any concentrated state power as intrinsically suspicious( “dichotomy between democracy vs. authority.”) But Marxism-Leninism rejects this as an idealist and ahistorical abstraction. In any class society, the state is not a neutral arbiter; it is a dictatorship of a class an instrument of rule and authority by that class over others.

    Liberals see authority itself as the problem. Marxists-Leninists see class-based authority as the problem esspecialy, authority by the exploiting class. We argue that the liberal dichotomy hides the reality: capitalism already has immense, unaccountable authority (over workers, colonized peoples, the unemployed, the indebted). The question is not “democracy or authority” but which class holds democracy for itself and which class wields authority against which other class.


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    1 day ago

    You are relentlessly behaving in a very chauvinistic and reactionary way.

    No U

    I don’t need to agree with every word Engels wrote to be a communist. Marx, Engels, et al. aren’t prophets sharing mystical secrets from on high.

    No of course you don’t have to. At least have the decency to not misrepresent it.

    You should not treat theory as your bible.

    You should not view yourself as the next coming of Christ that is here to be a prophet on how to achieve a state and classless society when you haven’t done your homework but still would like to talk to those that have


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    I believe you believe in the dichotomy between democracy vs. authority . While we believe in the dichotomies of democracy for which class (democracy for the proletariat vs. Democracy for the bourgeois) and authority perpetrated by which class.

    This seems to be the main ideological point of contention (correct me if I’m wrong)


  • KimBongUn420@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlyeah, I'm a centrist
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    1 day ago

    I’m willing to be less antagonist in my responses, but yours make it very difficult to do so.

    I don’t like wasting my energy on confidently wrong libs that misrepresent what is trying to be said in this community. When you misrepresent and think what is being said is:

    Marxism-Leninism isn’t authoritarian! It isn’t authoritarian because I said so. You can’t achieve shit without authoritarianism anyways! Even if you can achieve things without authority, words are inherently meaningless symbols for meanings which are constantly in flux, so who can really say where authoritarianism begins and ends. Either way, you’re wrong and also an ILLITERATE LIAR who I will accuse of being a lib for good measure”

    Then I seriously doubt:

    I’ve read more than my fair share of theory over the years.

    Maybe another comrade is more patient. I’ll see myself out



  • KimBongUn420@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlyeah, I'm a centrist
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    1 day ago

    You didn’t read the text, I can tell.

    Do you realize that what you shared doesn’t argue that Marxism-Leninism is not authoritarian,

    Duh, because we have a different understanding of authority.

    but instead just reframes it as necessarily authoritarian? As in, it implies authoritarianism is necessary to achieve communism. Argue that it is good, necessary, be my guest, but it is authoritarian.

    No, the text asks if organisation in the most abstract sense is possible without authority and highlights that with the advent of capitalism labour is a highly socialized process. It argues that authority in a socialist society takes on a different form.

    the root issue I have with MLs

    The root issue I have with libs is that they think you can simply vote capitalism away, when it’s been demonstrated time and time again that you cant