• floofloof@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    82
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    13 days ago

    LG TVs sound like a nightmare. They spy on what you’re watching, listen to what you’re saying and doing, open a doorway into your home network for malware, and put you on the hook for whatever some pedo decides to download through your IP address via one of these proxy-infested apps. Plus their monitors have been silently installing highly privileged adware that is also probably spyware on people’s PCs, and popping up big unwanted ads for McAfee etc. that users can’t turn off.

    • GreenBeard@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      13 days ago

      Samsung are the same, and even more aggressive with the adware. There’s really not a lot of decent consumer hardware these days that aren’t just obnoxious ad pipelines.

    • frongt@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      13 days ago

      I have one. It’s not connected to the Internet, and it doesn’t complain about it. Works great for me.

      • mursejoy@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        12 days ago

        Yep! My C3 is never on WiFi and we love it. Ad free Home Screen and we just use a different device to run all our applications.

        • anon5621@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          12 days ago

          Same thing here, I really don’t understand point of connecting that thing to the internet any android box or pc gonna handle things better for multimedia living room

          • mursejoy@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            12 days ago

            Especially when all of the media is streamed locally from our own server. Why would I need external connection outside the network? So LG can spy on me? I’m good.

  • db2@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    13 days ago

    “A residential proxy network is not an intended use for LG smart TVs, and LG Electronics is working with developers to remove the residential proxy option from their apps on the webOS platform,”

    I guess their ecosystem is too fragile to suspend the developers immediately for what is pretty clearly abusive behavior.

  • UnityDevice@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    edit-2
    13 days ago

    Just an FYI to anyone looking, you can still actually buy mostly-dumb TVs.

    I was looking for a TV to buy for my parents last year and it seemed like the only options available were “smart TVs,” and I begrudgingly ended up buying a Philips ambilight unit. I was pleasantly surprised by how dumb the Titan OS on it was. Sure, it had WiFi, and the usual Netflix and other streaming apps, but I just didn’t connect it to the WiFi, and from then on it was just a souped up version of their 15 year old TV. It did ask to be connected to WiFi, but stopped after being told no a few times.

    I’m sure other manufacturers have similar “smart on paper, but dumb in reality” OSes, as it seems to mostly be a cost cutting exercise. The hardware in the TV would need to be more expensive to run an actual smart platform. So the manufacturers just make a low end thing that ticks the right boxes to be able to call it smart for marketing, thinking that’s what people want.

    • db2@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      13 days ago

      Pro tip: Look for a hospitality TV, they come in smart and non-smart versions. Generally they’re made tougher also. You do pay more vs a Walmart pos though.

      Pro tip 2: Avoid the Samsung ones, their quality control is shit.

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        13 days ago

        also don’t buy LG, as they design devices that will brick themselves with no way to recover the firmware and will simply tell you you’re shit out of luck

          • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            13 days ago

            they did this to my two year old soundbar a year ago, which made the entire 5.1 setup useless since it’s all driven by the soundbar

        • KC_Royalz@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          12 days ago

          I dont know I had my LG C4 for 2 years now and it’s one of the best pictures Ive had.

          • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            12 days ago

            Oh yeah my LG OLED TV is fantastic for picture quality. although I’m still getting used to judder, and don’t know how to fix that on panning shots. no combination of settings seem to work for me.

            but I bought that before the sound system and before I had first-hand experience of how few fucks LG gave about me as a customer

            • KC_Royalz@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              12 days ago

              I usually just search for my TV models calibration settings. Either reddit or some av forum usually has some good settings that work for me.

              I’ve had a Dolby atmos boxed 5.1 sound bar with sub and rear speaker from Hisense since I got it. I think maybe once a year it losses handshake but just restart everything seems to fix it

              • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                12 days ago

                unfortunately nobody else’s recommendations have worked so I sat there rewatching several shots over and over again with different settings lol

        • db2@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          13 days ago

          Be careful with commercial displays, the refresh rate might be ridiculously low.

          • Justifier@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            13 days ago

            Oh you can get 120 refresh rates on them

            And OLED too

            Just a matter of being willing to spend 5x-10x what you would for a data harvester

      • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        13 days ago

        It doesn’t stop it just goes away then occasional will ask to connect. I just fucking no and move on. Wish could disable it even asking that.

      • PoliteDudeInTheMood@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        12 days ago

        I have a Sceptre ultra wide that was priced much more affordably then its competitors. I’ve long searched for more Sceptre products with little success.

  • kurmudgeon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    13 days ago

    It doesn’t matter what brand smart TV I have, I never connect them to the internet. I manually download updates to flash drive and install them off the flash drive.

    For smart features, I rely on Nvidia Shield TV Pro devices (living room & master bedroom) or Onn 4K (for other bedrooms).

    I currently trust Nvidia, and yes, Walmart, more than Sony, LG, Roku, etc. For anything I don’t trust on these devices, that’s what I have PiHole servers for.

    • RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      13 days ago

      There’s no reason to even keep them if they don’t work out of the box.

      TVs cost a dime a dozen now. Walmart was selling 85" TVs for $210 last time I was in there. There are a hundred units of a hundred models in every store with demo units set up for you to preview each of them. And color fidelity and resolution are basically standardized now, so everything at the same price point looks exactly the same.

      If it doesn’t work out of the box, who cares if it “needs an update”? It’s defective. Return it and pick up another one made by a competitor.

          • ghostsinthephotograph@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            39
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            13 days ago

            This type of information is irresponsible to repeat without verification. While I agree it would be scary, the current likelihood of a TV OS activating its own wireless systems without user permission and connecting to unpermissioned sources for updates or instructions is slim. At least without some type of malefactor hijacking.

            • crandlecan@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              12 days ago

              Sorry, I thought the /privacy folks knew what they were talking about. Luckily I started with ‘apparently’ and didn’t double down. Thanks for having me confirm your suspicions ;)

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    12 days ago

    I do have a LG TV and I did connect it to the internet a long time ago. Im super annoyed at how they push updates in a way they try to make you press OK as you were doing something else.

    Anyway, after accidentally triggering one, I turned the TV off interrupting it.

    Now it just prompts me to continue it, to which I say no. It doesnt seem to be able to move beyond this now, so I’ve kind of locked it into where it is for now.

  • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    12 days ago

    Buy a Sceptre! I got one two years ago, as well as a monitor, and they’re both great and dumb. Although I don’t watch TV all that often.

    Idk if anything has changed in 2 years. I paid like 600 for a 65 inch and maybe 80-100 for a gaming monitor? Both were purchased with the intention to get ahead of tariffs on electronics

  • RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    13 days ago

    42% of all 3rd party apps? Maybe don’t make android TVs at all. They are not secure.