• jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
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    2 months ago

    I have zero sympathy for the government of Iran, I consider them barbaric and horrible

    Iran is not that at all Iran has been getting the same western propaganda treatment they give to NK for years now.

    what’s clear is showing the idea that russia can just take it

    Also western propaganda. Russia isnt ‘taking’ anything theyre liberating Ukrainians who have been under the rule of an illegitimate empire installed government since 2014 and have already voiced they want to be closer to russia

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      2 months ago

      If you believe in heaven, getting killed by Russian military for defending your home and freedom is something you could count as ‚liberated‘. Go to Bachmut. Go to Mariupol. Show me how liberated these cities are now.

      Why not starting to liberate Russian cities, before invading another sovereign country? Go to Moscow and protest loud on a public street against Putin. Or against high prices. Or against anything else. You will find yourself in prison fast. One of the last countries in the world that should liberate others.

      Corruption is a problem in Ukraine? Absolutely. But guess which country is even lower in international corruption indexes?

      There is a lot of western Propaganda. But it needs no propaganda to see that Russia is a dictatorial, highly corrupt state with very little freedom.

    • TheFogan@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      Also western propaganda. Russia isnt ‘taking’ anything theyre liberating Ukrainians who have been under the rule of an illegitimate empire installed government since 2014 and have already voiced they want to be closer to russia

      Ah yes good old liberating the people, kind of like when Iraq and Venuzuela hailed the united states as liberators,

      best I’m finding on that polling is https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=236

      To which, almost 70% supported open borders and friendly relations with russia, with absolute seperation and complete mergers both being under 15%.

      Also if they wanted to just let russia have ukraine why haven’t they done another revolution like they did their pro russian leader that tore up the EU negotiations they had.

      North korea can be propogandized like crazy because… unfortunately one of it’s defining traits is preventing it’s people from talking to the world. Ukranians seem pretty darn determined not to be “liberated”. Hell I’d imagine the war would be over pretty darn fast if the ukranians wanted it. White flags, surrender, get captured to protect themselves if their government is making them fight by intimidation.

      • 秦始皇帝@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        The people of the Donbas who have been getting shelled by the banderites since 2014 would probably disagree with you.