• Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Mossad agents: “60 gazillion protesters killed! We have to save them by killing everyone that’s left!”

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    • Marx : “the freedom of the workers will be accomplish by the workers themselves”
    • Workers fighting for freedom
    • Marxist : “It’s CIA !”
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      Marx also railed against metaphysicians, who dogmatically try to apply one set of conditions to an entirely different context, ignoring the particularities. The concrete reality is that the CIA and Mossad were infesting and sparking the protests for the purposes of installing a reactionary monarchy. This isn’t worker liberation, the class interests served are the imperialist bourgeoisie. Without a strong and unified working class, revolution cannot succeed, and so the better organized factions like Mossad and the CIA would be able to take advantage of this.

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        Did I say CIA, Mossad or other imperialist state were not involve ?

        I pointed out that you couldn’t pretend defending the working in class when denying its agency. The movement “jin, jîyan, azadî” started way before the US and Israel operations (2022); kurdish people are organizing for their freedom even before the 1st war of Irak, and one of the few example of real socialism (democratic confederalism).

        Yep, the imperialist state try to use those movement; the responsibility of the revolutionary movement inside those imperialist state is to fight the imperialism of their own state, not saping the revolutionary movement in other state

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    Strictly speaking, that headline and the articles I’ve read in the Western press, suggest the idea was to incite a rebellion by clearing a path. Meaning by weakening the regime and giving the protestors the opportunity to seize the government.

    It doesn’t suggest they were trying what they did in Afghanistan, finding all the incels and giving them money and guns.

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    I mean they waited until a week after they rounded the everyone related to rebellion up and killed them.

    Who did they think was left after the 1000+ executions? That might have been legitimate 2 weeks earlier.

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    Communist are against the fascist religious tyranny in Iran. Speak for your self!

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      2003: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Iraq!

      2004: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Afghanistan!

      2011:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Libya!

      2015:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Syria!

      2022:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Palestine, free Palestine from Hamas!

      What does siding against the governments of these places mean? Oh right, in every case it means siding with the rapacious genocidal US empire. How interesting of you to leave that out, you Totally Real Communist you.

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      If you oppose the Iranian government, do you think whatever replaces it will be better if Mossad and the CIA overthrow it?

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        I mean, that’s how we got here, so I guess doubling down will only take us to where we are, but with extra effort.

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          The current government overthrew the US backed monarchy, so in a way it was caused by US intervention but indirectly.

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      You don’t have to agree with the regime to know US/Israeli attempts to over throw it will be worse for the Iranian people. The external contradiction facing Iran must be overcome before the internal contradictions can be resolved. There is no social growth under imperial boots.

      If you are claiming to be a communist then please apply material analysis

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        “Coming into power” is putting the cart before the horse. The odds of regime change don’t look good, and what would replace it hasn’t been decided. I doubt “crown prince” Reza Pahlavi is still a serious contender.

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      TBF most of us used to be liberals, and we have no more wits now than we did then.

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        i sure don’t and age is starting to make me forgot more often so i’ll have less wit soon. lol