They couldn’t even wait for the next gen; they had to say, “Fuck you,” to everyone who paid extra for a disc drive on the PS5.
I’m pretty sure the disc drive only ended up being included because somebody thought they could prove they didn’t need to sell disc drives anymore, and the plan backfired.
Goodbye, Sony, hello, unaffordable PC gaming. Would everything go back to normal if the AI nazi cunts were luigied?
What do you mean about unaffordable PC gaming? A 10 year old console costs nearly as much as a brand new PC, like $200-$300 difference. Plus the games are cheaper on PC. Plus all to advantages of owning a PC/laptop. What made consoles appealing 10+ years ago is gone, no more plugnplay, no more savings, and no more simplicity.
PS5 Pro $900 re-released with minor upgrades 2024
Gaming Laptop $950 released 2023
I’m a PC gamer, so I support your point. Mine is that assembling a good gaming PC now is unaffordable, especially since the AI bubble has made the prices soar. Haven’t you seen the Steam Machine? Have you seen its specs? Its price?
So, yeah, PC games are cheaper, but the cost of entry atm is an arm.
While I do agree with all of your points, no one said it had to be your arm.
Can I choose who’s arm? ❤️
I encourage you to. 😉
So many nazis are gonna cover my gaming expenses…
so why are we taking a dip in your hot tub full of ice before this date again?
You could buy a cheaper PC and not play AAA games.
I don’t think so. The Moore’s law is dead. The priviledge of buying a new machine that’s twice as fast, half as power hungry or half the price as the old one is over.
One of the ways to optimize is to shorten the length of the bus connecting the components, making the machine more compact, less modular and less repairable.
I’ve enjoyed the golden times of technology as much as anyone, but realize it was an anomaly, not the normal.
As for the AI buble, it will pop eventually, to be replaced by some new fad, but it will never be the same.
PS: Just as I’m wring this, I’ve noticed a release fom IBM about a 0.7nm process that’s supposed to be twice as powerful and 70% more energy effective compared to 2nm, so not all is lost (yet). Can’t wait for the yield number.
That would only be the first step.
If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t theft, is it?
So don’t be their consumer
I never understand people. I have a list of businesses I no longer use no matter what. It really isn’t difficult.
Big opportunity for Xbox to make their own “here’s how you share a game on Playstation” display.
Yeah, they did it yesterday: they basically told us that next xbox won’t have an optical drive so they are looking for ways of digitizing your physical “for your convenience”:
Just think of how much the C-levels at Xbox would shit themselves if game players actually stuck together and didn’t buy the product.
Sometimes I say silly things.
Next they’ll wonder why anti consumer practices don’t give them more consumers
Sony’s “What, don’t you guys have phones?!” Moment. Lol
Unfortunately Diablo is still pretty successful so I guess they got away with it?
Sony being Sony. Same shit every couple years.
Honestly surprised people support them still with the laundry list of anti consumer scandals.
The Sony RootKit is still active on old CDs. Even though the servers are long gone.
There was a substack I read recently that went through what is on 2000s era dvds and still trying to phone home.
Found it.
https://ringmast4r.substack.com/p/in-1999-this-was-a-federal-crime
Question to anyone who was buying ps5 discs:
When was the last time you even bought a game on disc that didn’t need a download to fix a critical issue right away? Cause it seems like they ruined disc ownership like since PS4 times.
Discs have become more of a tradeable license than anything else, but that’s still far, far better than having no option at all.
if you sell your games, sure. But I can play any game on any of my PS3 and older systems right now, right down to my 40 year old NES.
You think that sony server is going to give you those game patches 15 years from now?
You think that Sony server is going to give you those game patches 15 years from now?
Probably, considering that even with the closing of the PS3 store 20 years later, you will still be able to download and patch games you’ve already purchased. PS4 and PS5 will likely be backwards compatible on PS6 (for digital games only, of course), so will remain up for even longer since they’ll still be usable on current hardware.
But even if they’re went the Nintendo route where you only have a 15 year window or so, a tradeable license during that period is better than none at all. Still sucks ultimately, of course.
tunic?
idk, when i got Sea of Stars it seemed to run fine until the update installed.
If you’re so worried about Sony discontinuing physical media, just move to Steam!
Protip, you can run pirated games through Steam as a non-Steam game as well!
i mean yeah, but why?
If you’re on Linux, for Proton, and Steam Input for compatibility. There have been many games that won’t work with my PS5 controller unless I run them through Steam.
Where you own nothing as well. People have become comfortable with that thought since Steam launched, today they love it.
Ubisoft just said it out loud. Fuck them all!
Maybe…Stop giving them money?!
Yup. I was thinking about getting a playstation when GTA VI comes out. Ill wait for the PC release. If I’m forced into digital only, it’ll be on Steam, thanks.
Lucky I never got bored with Quake 1, Redneck Rampage and Carmageddon 1. Oh, and the original Lotus game that fits on a floppy.
Thats okay. you can be rest assured, theres plenty of people out there that don’t care about the harm they cause and will continue buying sony products and digital downloads, sustaining sonys anticonsumer practices for years to come.
/s
I hate big corporations as next guy, but 80-90% of video games sales today are digital sales. See sources below. To me it seems like an example of people preaching one thing, that they want physical media, and the vast majority silently doing the opposite, because it’s more convenient. Isn’t this at least partly our own fault?
https://www.g2a.com/news/features/85-of-playstation-game-sales-are-digital-is-physical-gaming-dying/
https://twicethebits.com/2025/06/19/the-shift-to-digital-gaming-why-physical-sales-are-declining/
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/how-digital-is-the-video-games-market-in-2024
I only play console games. Intentionally bought the disk version of the ps5. The only time i buy disks is when theyre cheaper, which only happens when im getting an older game. If theyre the same price, im going digital for the convenience
At this point all consoles are dead to me. We only but physical carts for the kids switch one and they are offline as much as possible. I only play indie and retro games because i want to give money to people who deserve it and on systems that can never have these issues. There is enough of both to keep me entertained my entire life.
Why is this still a topic? Having a physical disk doesnt give you any more ownership over the games. The ability to play the game is still tied to a license that they can revoke at any time. Once activated the copy is tied to your account or am i misremembering this? You dont lose anything from this except for a useless plastic box.
The point is that you lose out on the ability to buy games second hand
Can you though? Arent the CDs just basically single use activation codes?
No. You can insert any PS4 or PS5 disc into any PS5 with a disc drive and it will run the game. It might also require a download, but they’re not tied to specific accounts.
I see, then its fair to be pissed, i retract my point 🫡
single use? no. but yes activation code.
It depends on the game (or system).
Yeah, you’re broadly right - and this is still shitty anti-consumerist behavior.
In regards to a game behind tied to an account, I’m not sure about that, but I don’t know enough to say for sure. Say I buy a game, install the game on my machine, then trade that disc to a friend. If Sony nukes my account, I think the game would still work for my friend. Or, if they revoke that one game’s license, what if I had another copy of the game? It’s possible to set up a PS5 without the Internet: wouldn’t Sony then be stopped from knowing what you’re doing/be able to revoke licenses?
You’re right that physical media is still technically a license to use the item for personal use, that you don’t actually own the work, and that conceivably it can be revoked by the company. However, having a physical piece of media allows you to play it offline, loan it to a friend, sell it on eBay, rent it from GameFly, and back it up digitally. Games can then be emulated and preserved for future generations.
Having choices matter: whether between Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, or Valve, or having physical or digital media. When Microsoft is failing, Sony is less inclined to do right by gamers. If we lose physical games, it will be easier for games to be altered/removed/revoked at whim. Years ago there was a rash of TV episodes pulled from streaming due to various censorship reasons - but they still exist on DVD & BR for fans to enjoy. Movies that don’t get released physically and aren’t on streaming are functionally lost/dead.
n regards to a game behind tied to an account, I’m not sure about that, but I don’t know enough to say for sure. Say I buy a game, install the game on my machine, then trade that disc to a friend. If Sony nukes my account, I think the game would still work for my friend. Or, if they revoke that one game’s license, what if I had another copy of the game? It’s possible to set up a PS5 without the Internet: wouldn’t Sony then be stopped from knowing what you’re doing/be able to revoke licenses?
i have not had my account or game nuked, but i have lent disks to friends. shit it’s how my public library works. the physical media contains the token that identifies the license. not the license holder.
