• kboos1@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Then why doesn’t Toyota and Nissan do something about it? It’s their product, regardless of where it’s made.

    Also why are they shipping vehicles with software created for North America then acting like it’s Americans faults that features don’t work or only come in English, French and Spanish.

    Sounds like they’re making bad decisions and trying to blame it on cultural differences

    • ozymandias117@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The imports are just to placate Trump around tariffs, and it’s not worth it to them to improve all cars made in America

      So they’re warning any Japanese buyers that if they buy it, they’re getting the lower quality models

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      2 months ago

      The issue is when you build in North America, you have to deal with local parts suppliers for all parts and subassemblies. Then you have a problem of the North American culture of poor quality control and maximizing profit margins only. So you can have a great design, which works in Japan with Japanese suppliers, but then it falls apart with local parts makers in Canada and US. Some sub-assemblies cross the border 2-3X which just amplifies the typical shit quality of manufacturing in North America.

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        2 months ago

        Don’t forget having to pay a bunch of lazy Americans high wages vs hard working and loyal Japanese drones who get paid less. I’m not exaggerating, loyalty to your employer is huge in Japan.

    • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Welcome to capitalism everything you buys is the worst version someone can legally sell you for the most they can charge.

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      1 month ago

      Saving face is a much bigger priority in japan than in the US, and since its americans working in the us, why even bother

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    2 months ago

    Yes, that’s how national standards work.

    You also can’t import a Japanese-made vehicle to the US until it’s 25 or more years old because the safety specs are different.

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      2 months ago

      And almost all US market vehicles are not up to Canadian standards - starting with the Canadian requirement to have driver adjustable headlight elevation trim…

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          1 month ago

          Especially for vehicles that tow trailers and the trailer tongue weight pushes the angle of the whole vehicle up…

          Of course we don’t have them in the US because, unlike Canada, we have far too many drivers who would adjust them up just to be jerks blinding other drivers on purpose.

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      That’s just what they want you to believe. Cars have to be 25 years old before they can be imported, because Mercedes dealerships where butthurt about ⅕ beamers being imports four decades ago.
      Technology connections on YouTube touched on it in a video, if I recall right domestic sales went up a couple percent for Mercedes dealerships, no where remotely close to +20%.

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        2 months ago

        It used to be a thing where you could get a job driving brand new BMWs around Europe until it hit like 6,000km so they could be imported to the US cheaper as a “used” car.

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            1 month ago

            I would expect the job wasn’t just “we’ll pay you drive around non-stop for 9 hours/day”. I bet it was probably more like “use this car for your commute and stuff, but be sure to have it up to 6km in X weeks” or something like that.

            It would probably take a long time to run up 6k on a dyno, completely occupying that dyno for just one car. Doubt that would have been worth the cost of one (or multiple) dynos.

            • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              That makes sense. Or even as simple as perhaps renting out the car or something like that. But with extreme restrictions about cleanliness and such or something, I don’t know. Thank you, your ideas absolutely helped

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      Not only that but Toyota as an example does a lot to localize their products. So for example, a Toyota built in the Northern parts of North America will have better winterizing. Whereas a Toyota built in a coastal area like much of Japan will be resistant to salt water spray.

      While OP is trying to imply that Toyota is selling crap to American’s because they think Americans are so stupid they’ll never noticed, the fact is that a car built for Japan will not last as long in America as a car built for Americans.

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        1 month ago

        the fact is that a car built for Japan will not last as long in America as a car built for Americans.

        This was really noticeable with 1970’s japanese vehicles. They weren’t great. But they improved.