Remember folks, age verification is personal identity verification.
💯 don’t call it age verification - that’s just what the unmasked scooby-doo villain is still hiding behind.
Well they could do it the right way where, for example, you go to your city hall to get a certificate of age where they check your ID. Then some cryptography happens so you only enter a public key from that certificate on a website or OS to verify your age.
The website or OS doesn’t check your ID. City hall doesn’t know your browsing history.
But I’m not fooling myself, that’s not the point of such a law.
no implementation of personal ID for internet access will ever be “correct.”
Never say never there is ALWAYS a way to do things right. But our government is too stupid to do it. So it might as well be impossible. Kek
“Key questions remain unanswered, such as the definition of “operating system provider,” the type of verification required, the focus on major commercial platforms, and the potential scope beyond them.”
I guarantee this bill is unenforceable. Cars, phones, traffic lights all have have computers with operating systems. All modern tech has an operating system of some sort. Also how do you even verify age? If my laptop is offline can I just not use it because it can’t confirm my id? What about tech that never goes online but has an OS, like a calculator? I can’t believe microsoft and apple are not lobbying against this. Who becomes liable if an “underage” person is accidentally given access or if access is denied to an “of age” person. I can just imagine an emt frantically looking for their driver’s license so they can use the computerized defibrillator.
Rules being implemented and enforced by actual pedophiles
Okay, what is this bill actually saying?
That soon, you won’t even be able to own most computers without registering it under a government ID?
Because that’s fucking nuts.
Make guns connect to the internet and watch what happens then.
I’m having a hard time understanding how this is going to keep kids safe.
Palantir really wants it’s fucking database.
All because Petey truly believes that there are demons living in the United States.
They cant even define an OS. Do i need a fucking login for my wifi fridge and toaster. Such a stupid ffucking law.
A few years ago, due in part to frustration with our information environs, but also for fun, I decided against getting broadband internet after moving to a new apartment. I didn’t have real internet for about 2 years. I did have 1GB/mo of cell data and used a 2nd SIM in a 4g mPCIE card as an uplink for my LAN. I restricted myself to mainly text using JS-free http applications or light protocols like gopher, irc, rss, etc. I quite enjoyed my time having to be very mindful of my data usage. It forced me to fully audit all the technology on my LAN.
If this kind of legislation passes, I simply won’t pay for internet. If both ISPs and telecoms start restricting devices, then I’ll forego cell-based data as well. If public wifi spots become too restrictive, I won’t patron those spots. I’ve accumulated more offline content on my server than I could ever consume in many lifetimes, so it really isn’t a loss. Hell, it’d be an opportunity to organize it all well, and share via meshnets. Don’t tempt me with a good time, politicians. I could save money, nerd out, and cut the noise from my information environments? Sign me up!
edit: I wanted to add: I do really like having a fiber link, but the main draw is having the ability to host my own services. If that goes away due to hierarchical pricing or device/encryption restrictions, 95% of the value prop disappears. I will not be strong armed into using overly-centralized services.
In the future, you’ll be sentenced to 10 years hard labour for a contraband OS while children are raped openly at lavish parties.
You will be sent to die for Israel 🤣
I can just stop being online. I show my library card when I need to renew my stateID
If the fascists get much further, possessing a library card will disqualify you from voting.
YOU can stop being online, maybe.
We’re queer, and furry, and therian, and plural. We do not have community in dirtspace/so-called “real life” (online is just as real).
Some people need the internet to survive.
– Frost
Isn’t this against the 10th amendment?
It’s against the fourth and the first based on past lawsuits. But who knows what will happen with this.
The Internet is built upon and requires anonymous participation! This is an attempt to end privacy…
Don’t want to compete with a potentially capable Linux? Pay the government to make it illegal!
There’s already being work done to add an optional age-attestation in systemd.
And note that none of the laws proposed so far are actually verifying age, they’re only requiring someone to enter it. That’s attestation, not verification. Verification will be the next tightening of the screw.
They reverted the change and the Dev who made merge request got death threats.
Was it actually reverted? I saw the PR to revert the change, but last I checked it was closed and not approved
Maybe not. I heard it online.
gg, we’re done, it’s been good ✌️
Cool, so I guess you’re just okay with an authoritarian State. Just gonna roll over at the first opportunity?
What can I do from over in northern Europe?
Stop spreading doom and gloom before the fight has even begun. That would be a good start.
palintir, meta, google are all behind it. it serves 2 purposes; silencing dissidents and TRACKING women/potential mothers as brood mares.
Google actually gets fucked by this. They are likely one of the few to go against it. Having to deal with age I’d on android and Chromebooks would be a huge pita for them.