• radiofreebc@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 hours ago

    This. So…much…this.

    Our egos are a frequency, a perspective…but we are part of something much larger than we are capable of understanding.

    We are all just a radio station, broadcasting into infinity, into a receiver capable of receiving infinite frequencies.

    We are the bacteria on our own fingernails, but we are everything…all at the same time.

    The universe is as old as it takes for us to be everything.

    I am he

    As you are he

    As you are me

    And we are all together

      • Kor@feddit.org
        1·
        9 minutes ago

        That’s the neat thing, you can choose to believe both to be true at the same time, but never reconcile them. Just as there most likely wouldn’t be pleasure without pain.

        As a species, we really should learn to live in and with perpetual ambiguity. There is no fixed point and no achieving bliss. Only permanent struggle towards the “right” path, whatever that shapes up to be.

  • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    8 hours ago

    It’s amazing how popular this ancient philosophical metaphysical perspective is. Even Stephen Colbert, a devout Catholic, in his final episode responded with a similar concept when asked in his questionnaire what happens when we die?

    Moksha (Hinduism), Nirvana (Buddhism), returning to the Tao (Taoism), Neoplatonism (ancient Greece), Fanaa (Sufism/Mystical Islam) - over millenia, so many traditions have been captivated by the idea of rejoining with “the One”.

    Within Hinduism is the nonthestic framework promoted by Adi Shankara known as Advaita Vedanta which is Sanskrit for nonduality. This takes the concept even further, positing that we are one eternally and that individuality / self are spiritual Maya or illusion.

    • Aniki@feddit.org
      1·
      4 hours ago

      it’s not antique, it’s continuously re-discovered. it’s timeless. some might call it universal

    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
      41·
      8 hours ago

      It’s amazing how popular this ancient philosophical metaphysical perspective is. Even Stephen Colbert, a devout Catholic, responded with a similar concept when asked in his questionnaire what happens when we die?

      Moksha (Hinduism), Nirvana (Buddhism), returning to the Tao (Taoism), Neoplatonism (ancient Greece), Fanaa (Sufism/Mystical Islam) - over millenia, so many traditions have been captivated by the idea of rejoining with “the One”.

      Within Hinduism is the nonthestic framework promoted by Adi Shankara known as Advaita Vedanta which is Sanskrit for nonduality. This takes the concept even further, positing that we are one eternally and that individuality / self are spiritual Maya or illusion.

  • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
    13·
    13 hours ago

    The Universe (big thing) pretending to be individuals (small thing)

    vs

    Atoms (small thing) pretending to be individuals (big thing)

    • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
      9·
      12 hours ago

      Do you ever just realize that everyone is in space right now? Like, sure, there’s an atmosphere, but other than that you’re basically out there. The air around you is sky. The vacuum around you is universe. When you take a closer look, there are universes within universes, whole worlds of microbes, like the ones on the very surface of the keyboard I type this on - on the larger scale, ecosystems of stars, being born, evolving and dying - like in a cosmic “firework show”. But they don’t tend to affect each other, I think. They’re so far away…

      And then, there’s us. We’re so small yet so big. Does that make us special or just mediocre? To an ant we are giants, to a star we don’t exist. Why does consciousness as we know it only exist in the middle of sizes? Maybe because it’s “as we know it”, and of course we only really know what things are like at our scale? Maybe sapience is subtle, and it can only be detected when you spend every moment dealing with it. Perhaps atoms are kind of conscious, and brains are the shape they make such that their consciousness field constructively interferes. Idk

      • Aniki@feddit.org
        2·
        4 hours ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceship_Earth

        the article is shit sadly

        Spaceship Earth (or Spacecraft Earth or Spaceship Planet Earth) is a worldview encouraging everyone on Earth to act as a harmonious crew working toward the greater good.

        nah

        it’s just saying that there’s no absolute ground, no absolute physical coordinate system. (relativity)

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
    27·
    17 hours ago

    I love this kind of philosophy. I wish it were possible to access it on a tangible level, but sadly it seems consciousness is local phenomena

      • volore@scribe.disroot.org
        19·
        16 hours ago

        shrooms can make you more empathetic, but in my case it also unlocked a new kind of depression in realizing that so many who need a change of perspective to see things that way, even for but a glimpse, never will. I felt such love and empathy for others in that moment, and such sorrow that it would never be felt nor returned by the vast majority of others; I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.

        • Aniki@feddit.org
          1·
          4 hours ago

          I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.

          consciousness is like a river, it becomes turbulent when things start flowing quickly enough. the abrasive property of living in a society full of change is ironically what makes it difficult to relate to other people’s experience, as it is quite difficult to see the actions in another train’s wagons when the relative movement is too great.

        • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
          3·
          7 hours ago

          And then there’s people like Joe Rogan who take all the psychedelics but apparently don’t realize a fucking thing.

        • NotANick@lemmy.world
          1·
          8 hours ago

          Integration of the experience into our lives is key. In my experience, the shift is happening right now and one person at a time. Don’t underestimate the ripple effect of people seeing through some of the theater in our world. Everyone is having an impact on others in everyday interactions and kindness goes a long way.

          Personally, I’d recommend a ritual psychedelic experience (like e.g. ayahuasca) with proper guidance to anyone reading this. Especially if you are inexperienced, do not take these substances in an uncontrolled environment. Be gentle towards yourself, healing can be a long process.

      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
        7·
        16 hours ago

        Yeah they can make you feel that way especially if you do them with a tight friend, but in reality you’re still locked into your own perspective.

        Maybe if more people believed we could kind of willingly feel it by proxy. Kind of like how mirror neurons let you simulate the other on your own equipment.

    • pptiny@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 hours ago

      You could just work on “first shift”, or what in Buddhism is called Fetters 1 and 2. Seeing through the self delusion. No woo-woo required and it’s the first stepping stone. But a big one.Just realizing there is no “me” here, and never has been, helps a lot.

  • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
    131·
    16 hours ago

    My thought recently has been:

    1. The universe is physical, ie made of material stuff. There is just stuff and the forces between stuff

    2. Stuff is governed by physical laws

    3. The interractions between things are relatively simple, but get much more complex and seemingly ramdom the more stuff you add

    4. This seeming randomness is not true randomness because the interractions between things are governed by predictable rules

    5. We are made of stuff, down to the neurons in our brains

    6. Our actions and thoughts are ultimately directly caused by neuronal activity that is (in theory) predictable and governed by laws

    7. Free will and individuality aren’t “real” in the way people typically mean. Our actions are determined entirely by the particles in our system interracting with the constituent parts of other systems.

    My conclusion: this doesn’t matter on a practical level. We still experience free will and individuality. But those things are illusions caused by the interractions of many complex systems.