• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    You did not provide arguments, you provided categorical declarations without backing them up or contextualizing them. Do you not see how enormously unproductive this is for bringing someone over to your side? Asserting that I simply “don’t understand” your supposed arguments is also not going to hold any water, everyone can see plain as day that I have carefully responded exactly to what you’ve been declaring.

    As for materialism being disproven, again, you don’t explain how or why, you just say that it has been, and reference “a hundred plus years of literature” without giving any examples, or explaining how it’s supposedly wrong. Who are you trying to convince? Even for the sake of hypothetical, even if it was wrong, if your goal was to convince anyone of your argument, you’ve given them absolutely nothing to go off of to see if you’re correct. All you’ve done is legitimize Marx, Lenin, and myself with this level of logic.

    As for Lenin’s theory, you still haven’t actually attacked it. You made the claim that it was all post-hoc, and when this was proven false, you deflected. This is just running away from the argument.

    I ask you again: for what purpose are you commenting? Is this how you try to gain comrades in real life? Do you even try to do so?

    • poVoq@slrpnk.netBanned from community
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      I said the arguments of marxist-leninists are mostly post-hoc, and you responded with one example of an earlier text that Lenin wrote. Kinda funny that you chose to ignore that there are more marxist-leninist writers and the very term was coined by Stalin long after the Bolshevik ursurped power. I am sure you know this, so you are clearly not arguing in good faith.

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        Stalin, by his own admission, added very, very little to Marxism-Leninism. Marxism-Leninism is, at its core, laid out by Marx and Lenin. If you mean any retrospective analysis is “post-hoc justification,” then this is absurd as retrospection must be post-hoc. If you mean most arguments in general are post-hoc, then you’re ignoring the core of Marxism-Leninism that predates socialist states.

        I’ve been arguing in good faith the entire time, asking you over and over for actual arguments and reading, and you respond with insult. Are you aware of how this presents to onlookers? Do you think you’re winning over others?

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          I am aware that I am not going to win this argument here on lemmy.ml which has long purged or actively driven away anyone that isn’t deep into the fan-fiction you seem to agree with.

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            Lol what the hell does the instance have to do with anything? It’s you and Cowbee having the argument. Have any of your replies to them been removed? Or do you need upvotes or what?