• Aeao@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    “Pull everyone over “

    I love how you phrase that like it’s some ridiculous impossibility lol.

    Speed cameras. Send them all a ticket.

    “Bad road design is a different problem”

    Yeah just like crashing is a different problem lol.

    “It’s not my fault that orphanage was flammable! I just like playing with fireworks! They should build better orphanages.

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        7 months ago

        lol do you really think that’s some kind of rebuttal?

        Let’s break it down. Essentially:

        “We can’t ticket everyone”

        “Yes we can”

        “But we don’t like to get tickets so we vote against tickets. Therefore you can’t do the reasonable things leaving our solution of speeding as the only option! so check and mate!”

        It’s impossible because you want to keep it impossible, so you can say it’s impossible, so your idea of just speeding all the time is the only way.

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          If you can find an electorate who’d be okay with this you might have a point.

          Those cameras would come down in like a month, what few a local government could afford to put up, anyway.

          They could do this easily on major highways and yet they haven’t yet, precisely because the local government knows it would be electoral suicide.

          A better solution would be pace cars that drive the speed limit with big gates so nobody can go around them. Then people literally can’t speed.

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            7 months ago

            Btw we aren’t going to waste our time pushing for more speed cameras lol we are going to sit and wait and gather our energy.

            The moment self driving cars are safe enough we are going to ban human drivers entirely, because humans suck at driving cars.

            That’s the future for you guys. You flat out refuse to drive safely so we just won’t let you drive at all.

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              7 months ago

              Yeeees, another thing Tesla and Google can fully control in our lives! Hurray!

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                7 months ago
                1. I never said Tesla or google. Only self driving cars. Tesla didn’t invent the concept nor do they own it.

                2. then don’t get involved with self driving cars. Just walk, problem solved.

                3. companies are a thing. It’s who we buy stuff from. You’re going to have to get used to that.

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                  1. Monopolies are a thing and the first few to the market with self driving systems will be ubiquitous. You can’t avoid it. Waymo/Google will license their solution to car manufacturers, who will be stuck with it because it’s going to be very expensive to get their own self driving certified in all their target markets.
                  2. Yes, let’s limit everyone to either walking/cycling, public transit, or megacorporation control over their freedom of movement. There’s certainly not a western government currently rounding up dissidents that would just tell their beloved corporations to drive people with certain backgrounds to Alligator Alcatraz.
                  3. Yes, but why are we giving them even more control over our lives voluntarily? Especially since we’re talking about something that can literally lock its doors and drive you to somewhere you didn’t want to go.

                  I’ve never been much of a conspiracy nut, but this is where I agree with them. I don’t want government and corporations to say when and where I can go. Walking is an option for me 90% of the time, and one I take very often, but what if I literally need to fucking escape an invasion? Considering it’s happening right now, 4 countries south of me, and said invader has demonstrated that they love taking down communications networks, what the fuck options am I going to have left if I need to drive 1000 km in a day and my car’s like “No Internet connection, I’m staying put”? If you’re in the US you don’t have THAT risk, but you still have the whole issue of a dictator being able to decide where you’re driving. Public transit is great, but it’s not ready for mass surges of people fleeing and if someone’s after you personally, it creates choke points (stations) where it’s easy to grab you. I’m not saying cars are super hard to track, but when there are a lot of targets, everyone being spread out means it’s harder to get a lot of people at once.