We have a pretty large amount of pizzarias owned by people with turkish roots here too! They often also offer Kebap, and some even provide Kebap Pizza.
Eh, i personally like either a pizza with all its cheesy & tomato & oregano goodness or kebap with it’s own satisfying taste. Pizza dough goes better with ingredients that don’t tend to dry out as much in an pizza oven, sadly. Although, thinking about it again, a kebap Calzone sounds awesome.
When you say kebap, what food are you referring to?
Where I am it’s usually spelled kabob and refers to chunks of meat on a skewer, which I think would be too big for pizza.
Shawarma or gyro on a pizza is good though! It doesn’t dry out in my experience, and at most gets a little more crisp on smaller edges like a ham or bacon might.
Ah, sorry, here in german speaking areas we call what you are calling Shawarma Kebap, no skewers, at least not when served:
The well roasted surface gets sheared off.
I only ordered a Kebap Pizza once and it sadly was a pretty dry affair, might be that i just had bad luck with the restaurant. Many of those restaurants are “Jack of all trades, master of none”, offering a wild mix of Pizza, Indian Food, Turkish cuisine, and some local foods, leading them to mix and match as they go.
We had an explosion in turkish owned restaurants starting in the 90s here - and the larger ones tend to offer everything, and i mean everything. The flyers are filled with a humongous amount of different dishes, but they have all the tendency to taste somewhat similar (they do not taste bad, mind you, but if my Döner tastes similar to my indian food because they use mostly the same spices for both, it all blends together into a “Taste palette of the restaurant”).
Turks are one of the main group of people who immigrated in the 60s-90s (they were called Gastarbeiter, guest workers), and it took them decades of work to actually fulfill their dream of building a business. Then Covid came, and it caused a lot of those restaurants to shut their doors, while ghost kitchens started to appear (which hadn’t been a thing here before).
Nowadays the same people will never have a real chance of accumulating enough wealth to actually start a business.
It’s not even Kebap pizza, it’s a traditional Turkish dish, called Lamakhun (spelling? ) that probably predates pizza. It’s often called Turkish pizza, so that people unaware of the dish can understand the style.
No, it’s not lahmacun, everyone here knows and enjoys lahmacun. Kebab-Pizza is an italian pizza with döner-kebab meat shavings on it, often accompanied by sheeps cheese and a yoghurt sauce.
Yes, in Germany too, that’s what you get if you order a kebap pizza in Germany.
A lahmacun is something entirely different, you can get it with kebab-meat too, and sometimes it is called a “turkish pizza” but it’s not the “kebap pizza”
Lahmacun
Lahmacun with salad
Alternative names Lahmadjoune, Lahmajun, lahmajoun, lahm b’ajin, lahmajo, lahmajin, lahamagine, lahmatzoun
Course Main
Region or state Levant[1]
Serving temperature Warm
Main ingredients Wheat flour, minced meat, vegetables and herbs
Wikimedia Commons logo Media: Lahmacun
Lahmacun,[a] lahmajun, or lahmajo[b] is a Middle Eastern flatbread topped with minced meat (most commonly beef or lamb), minced vegetables, and herbs such as onions, garlic, tomatoes, red peppers, and parsley, flavored with spices such as chili pepper and paprika, then baked.[3] Lahmacun is often wrapped around vegetables, including pickled vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, onions, lettuce, parsley, and roasted eggplant.
The word lahmacun is attested in explorer Evliya Çelebi’s Seyahatnâme a travelogue from the 17th century, according to Sevan Nişanyan, it is the oldest Turkish-language use of the word.[21]
Nah, i had actual pizza dough with the ingredients that would normally go into a Döner Kebap. I know about that turkish dish, but that dough is very different to the one used in italian pizza.
Searching for “Turkish pizza near me” find pizzerias that also sell gyros. The ones I tried didn’t have any different pizza toppings listed and it’s not like I can check every menu
We have a pretty large amount of pizzarias owned by people with turkish roots here too! They often also offer Kebap, and some even provide Kebap Pizza.
OK I need this in my life
Wait until you try curry pizza.
! Yes please
Eh, i personally like either a pizza with all its cheesy & tomato & oregano goodness or kebap with it’s own satisfying taste. Pizza dough goes better with ingredients that don’t tend to dry out as much in an pizza oven, sadly. Although, thinking about it again, a kebap Calzone sounds awesome.
When you say kebap, what food are you referring to? Where I am it’s usually spelled kabob and refers to chunks of meat on a skewer, which I think would be too big for pizza.
Shawarma or gyro on a pizza is good though! It doesn’t dry out in my experience, and at most gets a little more crisp on smaller edges like a ham or bacon might.
Ah, sorry, here in german speaking areas we call what you are calling Shawarma Kebap, no skewers, at least not when served:
The well roasted surface gets sheared off.
I only ordered a Kebap Pizza once and it sadly was a pretty dry affair, might be that i just had bad luck with the restaurant. Many of those restaurants are “Jack of all trades, master of none”, offering a wild mix of Pizza, Indian Food, Turkish cuisine, and some local foods, leading them to mix and match as they go.
It differs based on country and which immigrants they got when.
In Denmark as an example; there’s a fairly clear cut between Turks making döner, Kurds making pizza and Iranians making shawarma
We had an explosion in turkish owned restaurants starting in the 90s here - and the larger ones tend to offer everything, and i mean everything. The flyers are filled with a humongous amount of different dishes, but they have all the tendency to taste somewhat similar (they do not taste bad, mind you, but if my Döner tastes similar to my indian food because they use mostly the same spices for both, it all blends together into a “Taste palette of the restaurant”).
Turks are one of the main group of people who immigrated in the 60s-90s (they were called Gastarbeiter, guest workers), and it took them decades of work to actually fulfill their dream of building a business. Then Covid came, and it caused a lot of those restaurants to shut their doors, while ghost kitchens started to appear (which hadn’t been a thing here before).
Nowadays the same people will never have a real chance of accumulating enough wealth to actually start a business.
We have butter chicken pizza and it’s crazy good
It’s not even Kebap pizza, it’s a traditional Turkish dish, called Lamakhun (spelling? ) that probably predates pizza. It’s often called Turkish pizza, so that people unaware of the dish can understand the style.
No, it’s not lahmacun, everyone here knows and enjoys lahmacun. Kebab-Pizza is an italian pizza with döner-kebab meat shavings on it, often accompanied by sheeps cheese and a yoghurt sauce.
In Glasgow, they do pizzas with slices of doner kebap as a topping. It’s a common ingredient in a munchy box.
Yes, in Germany too, that’s what you get if you order a kebap pizza in Germany.
A lahmacun is something entirely different, you can get it with kebab-meat too, and sometimes it is called a “turkish pizza” but it’s not the “kebap pizza”
From Wikipedia:
Lahmacun Lahmacun with salad Alternative names Lahmadjoune, Lahmajun, lahmajoun, lahm b’ajin, lahmajo, lahmajin, lahamagine, lahmatzoun Course Main Region or state Levant[1] Serving temperature Warm Main ingredients Wheat flour, minced meat, vegetables and herbs
Lahmacun,[a] lahmajun, or lahmajo[b] is a Middle Eastern flatbread topped with minced meat (most commonly beef or lamb), minced vegetables, and herbs such as onions, garlic, tomatoes, red peppers, and parsley, flavored with spices such as chili pepper and paprika, then baked.[3] Lahmacun is often wrapped around vegetables, including pickled vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, onions, lettuce, parsley, and roasted eggplant.
The word lahmacun is attested in explorer Evliya Çelebi’s Seyahatnâme a travelogue from the 17th century, according to Sevan Nişanyan, it is the oldest Turkish-language use of the word.[21]
Hmmm. Maybe not?
This is how I know it in Germany
Kebab
Döner Kebap
Kebab Pizza
Lahmacun
This is exactly what I was picturing reading “Kebap pizza”. Slices of gyro sprinkled on a cheese pizza like pepperoni. It sounds great.
Nah, i had actual pizza dough with the ingredients that would normally go into a Döner Kebap. I know about that turkish dish, but that dough is very different to the one used in italian pizza.
Lahmacun, with the c pronounced as a j, consistent with Turkish orthography (the c with a squiggle under it is a different sound, pronounced ch).
Where do I find one of those?
Searching for “Turkish pizza near me” find pizzerias that also sell gyros. The ones I tried didn’t have any different pizza toppings listed and it’s not like I can check every menu