I’ve already spent some time stepping away from streaming with another digital audio player, but the Snowsky Echo sits in a slightly different space. Where something like the Innioasis Y1 leans heavily into affordable nostalgia as a concept, the Echo feels more like an attempt to refine it, to
What’s the benefit of this device when you can just put your audio files directly on your phone or laptop already?
Phones distract, phones nowadays have no headphone jack (fuck Bluetooth), Laptop isn’t very portable. I love having a dedicated device for music.
Edit: oh, and no fucking Touch Screen bullshit. I can just reach into my pocket and blindly operate the thing.
You’re entitled to your preferences, but why you gotta be so rude?
I was in a mood yesterday. Didn’t mean to be rude to anyone. Just venting some steam.
My phone is a distraction machine. Having dedicated devices allows me to focus better.
It’s smaller than a phone.
It has a long battery life.
It’s a proper high-res audio device. Much better audio quality than what you can get with bluetooth, a built-in headphone jack or most dongles. Even has a balanced output.
And finally, it’s just more fun.
What do you use it with if not with headphone jack nor Bluetooth?
I do use the headphone jack. I was referring to a phone’s built-in headphone jack in the above comment, as that was the point of comparison.
Most phones dont have enough storage for a medium sized music collection. Most phones dont have a headphone jack.
I would argue both points.
First, most phones have at least 20GB, which is a LOT of music storage if you’re using 320vbr compression, and if you’re an audiophile who absolutely positively must have flac for everything, you’re already going to be familiar enough with storage to know what size microSD card to get. Add in a synced dropbox/gdrive/nextcloud/whatever folder, and you don’t even have to manually plug it in to transfer files anymore, so space is kind if irrelevant.
Second, most people who are mobile are going to be listening with bluetooth headphones, and those who aren’t can still use a USB-C to jack adapter, which are pretty inexpensive and ubiquitous now, have passthrough charging solved, etc. For the audiophiles, there are very good USB-C DACs out now.
I guess I’m just confused about where this device fits into my life. If I’m mobile, it’s extra stuff to carry that duplicates functions I already have on me. If I’m home, I have fixed audio equipment that is way more versatile.
Sure 20gb is alot of music but it’s not alot of photos, videos, and apps. That stuff ads up quickly especially if your not using cloud backups for said photos and videos.
Also if your already automating syncing why not just run a audio server and connect symfonium to just stream the content, if you have connectivity issues I believe symfonium does offline downloads like most music apps.
And yea the device kinda is just an extra thing to haul around, now give me a battery backup that has inbuilt storage with the ability to act as a mobile media server I’m all over that.
I just try to use my phone as little as possible so like dedicated hardware. If I’m walking the dog my phone is off and I’m enjoying nature sounds. If I’m walking dog in a more busy less serene environment I use wired headphones with a dedicated player. Either way my phone is off and I’m using dedicated equipment.
All Android phones support Opus which makes it a great format if storage space is limited, as it’s optimized for low bitrates. You can go as low as 64 kbps if you are not picky. 128 kbps is near transparent and certainly enjoyable, while 192 kbps is basically a 320 kbps mp3 equivalent.
At 128 kbps, one can store 5000 songs even if they have just 20 GB to spare, as mentioned above.
Opus (and its predecessor Vorbis) is intended for telephony. It’s compression algorithm is optimised for low latency encoding of speech.
Opus is a hybrid codec, it combines codecs for both speech and higher quality audio/music.
Any usb c to p2 i tried breaks in 2 weeks (haven’t tried those bulky dacs). But I agree, I got no use or space for another device in my life unless I really really just don’t want my phone to distract me.
And neither does this thing. 8GB is absolutely laughable and then it can’t even handle SD cards above 256 GB? That’s considerably worse than my cheap, 6 year old phone (64GB internal storage, supports up to 512 GB SD cards and has a headphone jack).
This thing would have to be really cheap, like < $50 cheap to be worthwhile.
I’d reccommend an android dap.
For the music collection’s size, you could look into navidrome and have your server host your stuff, and your phone will just be streaming it.
But maybe this isnt a solution for everybody
Ideally, higher quality audio circuitry.
Because it’s a phone. People can call you on it.