Howdy self-hosters!

I’ve got a huge pile of eBooks flying around here: poetry, scientific literature, magazines, comics, teaching materials, RPG rule books - it’s a wildly mixed bag. I’m still looking for a self-hosted solution to make it more accessible and get an overview of what I actually have. (Calibre looks promising!)

My question here is not about software, though, but about organisation at the filesystem level: what folder and file name structure have you established for your eBooks? Do you just dump everything into one single folder and let the software do the rest? Do you create sections by genre (“Crime”, “Fantasy”, “Young adult”, like the libraries do it) or application (job-related, hobby-related, cooking, …)? Does it matter at all?

  • affenlehrer@feddit.orgEnglish
    8·
    13 days ago

    I don’t organize by folders, I use tagging so a single book can be in multiple categories at the same time.

    • LewdLemon@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      1·
      13 days ago

      That sounds reasonable. So you’re essentially throwing everything into one folder and let software do the rest? May I ask what software you’re using, and how it stores your tags? Does it use metadata files or a database?

    • LewdLemon@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      2·
      13 days ago

      Feel free to elaborate. ;) I don’t mind ditching folders. The question is: how do I get at said metadata with the least amount of manual effort, how do I make sure that it’s accurate (sifting through thousands of files is not fun), and how is the metadata stored - particularly so that does not lock me into one application that can only understand its own metadata scheme, and once it dies or I want to switch to a different one, I lose all the work I’ve put into curating my collection. That’s why I was considering folders as an option: they are a software-agnostic way of organising my library.

  • Gil, The Shitposter Of Ages@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    51·
    13 days ago

    I highly reccomend using calibre.

    bonus points if you use a self hosted LLM to auto catalogue and apply metadata to the file before importing into calibre.

    the recent openweight models are surprisingly good at reading files, pulling info, and doing simple monotonous tasks thousands of times without failing.

    • LewdLemon@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      3·
      13 days ago

      Hi there,

      thanks for not staying true to your username. ;)

      [let the LLM] apply metadata to the file

      How does this work in practice? I’ve got a bunch of .pdf, .epub, .txt, even some .doc files lying around in a folder. What would an LLM do to them? Write a bunch of .xml files with a file name identical to the corresponding book, or what?

      • Gil, The Shitposter Of Ages@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        13 days ago

        I’ve not personally tested such stuff (as my setup is complete and I did the metadata all by hand before the age of LLMs), but to my understanding; the LLM is able to write opf/XML/whatever files you want for metadata, or even edit the file directly to add metadata. epubs and PDFs support author/title/etc tags iirc, so its not too hard to get the LLM to apply those after ingesting the text and searching online for matches.

        I shitpost a lot in comments, making shitposts is lame and for losers. better to actually say meaningful things with a post rather than a nothingburger shitpost xD

  • filcuk@feddit.ukEnglish
    3·
    12 days ago

    Lots of varied advice in the thread. I would suggest you choose a software first, then find recommended naming for it. Many will do some organisation for you, or even let you define the structure.

    I don’t like calibre, but it’s undeniably the most complete solution. I’m not a fan of having to remote into a desktop for certain actions that given frontent doesn’t support (there are many).

    Some other options: https://selfh.st/apps/?tag=Books

  • non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    13 days ago

    I use calibre Web automated (CWA). I don’t concern myself much with the filesystem level structure, but it’s author/work + metadata for other details.

    If you start making the fs the sorting mechanism, you end up with books that don’t belong anywhere or have too ma y categories. I"be been down that road.

    • N0x0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      12 days ago

      Skill issue ! There’s a good balance between the 2. If you only rely on one organization logic you will later regret it ^^.

      Putting everything in one folder/directory and let the metadata speak for itself is just calling for a nightmare later one (same goes for folder/directory structure without metadata!).

      • non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        Putting everything in one folder/directory and let the metadata speak for itself is just calling for a nightmare later one (same goes for folder/directory structure without metadata!).

        I am not doing that. I’ll guess here that you aren’t familiar with the way calibre Web and CWA work?

  • imminent_nebula@lemmy.caEnglish
    2·
    13 days ago

    Same as I do for music. I use Calibre and do a lot of manual organization. My tree looks like this:

    King, Stephen/

    Christine/

    Christine.epub

Dark Tower, The - 01 - Gunslinger, The/

    Dark Tower, The - 01 - Gunslinger, The.epub

Dark Tower, The - 02 - Drawing of the Three, The/

    Dark Tower, The - 02 - Drawing of the Three, The.epub

Needful Things/

    Neefdul Things.epub

    Of course, most of my books are fiction so I don’t use genres, but now I’m rethinking that lol.

  • solrize@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    13 days ago

    I just use directories but yeah it would be good to have some kind of metadata repo. Calibre is ok if you sit around curating it. Trouble is a lot of my downloads are arxiv PDFs with nuneric filenames and cataloguing them would take some effort. Meh.

    • Gil, The Shitposter Of Ages@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      11·
      13 days ago

      and thats where a self hosted llm comes in. feed it the files, have it apply the metadata, and bam you’ve got a library.

      iirc calibre has a function like this now, its kinda cool IMO.