• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    “What if we organized as members of the general public and directly opposed the corrupt actions of state officials?”

    “Shut up, Tankie.”

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      haha! Also:

      “Hey I think the US might have been lying to us about China and the DPRK”

      “OmG TAnKiE SIMPING FOR DiCtAtOrShipS!! rabble rabble rabble”

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      The right-wing does want to organize: in favor of white supremacy. If being white puts them higher on the hierarchy, then them can reap material gains while feeling superior. That superiority complex prevents them from anticipating the danger they are in; the division of the working class will be their own downfall when the fascism they enable comes back to extract wealth from the white supremacists.

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      Nobody uses the word tankie there. Tankie means something specific, a sympathizer for communist or aesthetically communist states which lack either free and fair elections, a freedom to criticize the government, or just general human rights.

      Nobody calls people a tankie when talking about domestic politics. People either know what it means and use it correctly, don’t know what it means but identify themselves as a tankie, or they don’t know what it means and basically have nothing to do with the word.

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        Tankie means something specific, a sympathizer for communist or aesthetically communist states which lack either free and fair elections, a freedom to criticize the government, or just general human rights.

        I’d like to offer a correction:

        Tankie means something specific, a sympathizer for socialist states which are alleged by liberals to lack either free and fair elections, a freedom to criticize the government, or just general human rights.

        I fully agree that the definition you gave is the one that wielders of the pejorative believe to be true, but I’d argue my definition is more accurate as it accounts for the fact that “tankies” do not believe the allegations against socialist states to be true or to be highly exaggerated and removed from historical context in liberal narratives.

        Whenever a socialist is accused of being a “tankie,” they generally have 1 of 3 choices:

        1. Attack the validity of the pejorative as a real ideology

        2. Accept the pejorative, and use this to move onto discussing specifics, forcing the accuser’s hand

        3. Accept that “tankies” can and do exist, but try to convince your interlocutor that you aren’t one of them.

        The third is the most common among western leftists, and also happens to be the most self-defeating. Only options 1 and 2 actually present a path forward for socialists. You can replace “tankie” above with “woke” and the argument still applies, you can either own the label or attack the validity of the label to move forward.

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      Despite the result of the referendum, the government of Tsipras reached an agreement on 13 July 2015 with the European authorities for a three-year-bailout with even harsher austerity conditions than the ones already rejected by voters.

      Dang, kick a population while it’s down.

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    AND their colonies. we get our fair share of bullshit from the washington consensus and the imf.

    whoopsie doopsie, fascist puppets in power again. 🤗😍☺️❤️

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    Protest doesn’t change nothing, it maintains and promotes political activism, which fights voter apathy. It’s hard to see the results of it directly so it feels like it doesn’t do anything, but studies show you get better voter turnout after protests.

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        I mean, personally I started rolling my eyes when I saw the comment section almost immediately turned into .ml users simping HARD for China and North Korea, despite literally no one bringing them up.

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          “I personally started rolling my eyes when I made up something that wasn’t happening to get mad at!”

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          almost immediately turned into .ml users simping HARD for China and North Korea

          jesse-wtf

          “Hey I think the US might have been lying to us about China and the DPRK”

          “OmG TAnKiE SIMPING FOR DiCtAtOrShipS!! rabble rabble rabble”

          Thank you for providing an example for everyone.

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          simping

          I’m not a political expert, is it good or bad when your political ideology uses incel lingo to lie to itself about what it’s opponents think?

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        Maybe hold off on using terminology like “degenerate,” it has fascist implications. I agree with the sentiment, but we should be careful with wording.

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          That’s fair, I’ll workshop it for the next lib that gets lost. Something with some sting but that doesn’t potentially veer into that territory.