• TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Woman who recently had a mistrial go viral for being the latest influencer courtroom case. Similar to Depp v Heard. The woman’s name is Lindsay Clancy, I believe.

    Notable things (viewing this through the lens of my wife who told me about this case):

    • flimsy hard evidence against the mother
    • mother allegedly tried to kill herself 3 different ways after snapping and allegedly killing her children while the husband was out of the house
    • a lot of the evidence seemed to be hearsay from the husband
    • children’s bodies were cremated by the father
    • father is suspected of having a mistress because he moved on after this relatively quickly.
    • jury trial ended in a hung jury, because 1 juror tried to reverse “12 Angry Men” it to get all other jurors to switch to a Guilty verdict.
    • Clancy admitted to the murders initially

    My unsolicited opinion is that she very likely did commit the crimes, but the State has insufficient evidence to convict due to the police’s negligence during their investigation.

      • TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        6 days ago

        Did I say something untrue? Nobody has corrected any bulleted things I stated. Just said I was spreading misinformation and never clarified.

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          6 days ago

          How is the husband gtfoing indicative of a mistress or relevant to the question of whether the wife was sane at the time of the murders?

          Having people close enough to take you in when your nutso spouse commits triple homicide is not a red flag or a cause to cast doubt on where the guilt lies

          I don’t have a mistress but if my wife killed 3 family members, I’m sure I could find someone to give me a place to crash to get away

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          • Flimsy hard evidence against the mother

          (your first bullet)

          Is absolutely untrue and makes it sound like you are trying to cast doubt on the case in weird ways based on all your subsequent points.

          This isn’t “Making of a Murder” , no matter how many podcasts you heard. Extremely clear cut case from an evidentiary perspective, so much so neither side argued the evidence AT ALL

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      7 days ago

      The husband embezzled donations after skimping on the child’s gravestones.

      He fucking set the whole thing up and is getting a free pass because this is what Americia stands for these days.

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        7 days ago

        also this guy is spreading lies. the evidence is clear she did it, and she confessed. there was no despute as to her guilt in murdering her children.

        the issue is whether she can be held criminally liable for first degree murder. if the charges had been manslaughter or something else, it would have been a slam dunk conviction. but due to her mental state at the time, it’s questionable if she was capable/committed first degree, or premeditated, murder.

        but people don’t want to talk about the legal issues in the case… they just want to push the emotional bullshit that she was absolutely innocent, or absolutely guilty, and there can’t be anything in-between. and lots and lots of people like the db0 user commenting here are spreading lies about the case to push their political agenda.

        to the point that many of the TikTok moms who support her innocence are working entirely outside of the factual evidence of the case. which is also more evidence of how social media itself is causing psychosis in many folks, as it’s well-documented already how social media amplifies delusional and paranoid thinking.

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          7 days ago

          I was pretty explicit, I think she did it and the state lacks evidence to convict beyond the shadow of doubt.

          Sorry if the db0 in my username added some political leaning to my above post. I was trying to be pretty by the numbers as best as I knew.

          I didn’t even mention the fact that there’s been a giant push for people to claim that the father committed the murders. It’s pretty far out there for claims.

          I know another comment some issues with the way her specific state handles insanity pleas. Of that, I am not too in the know about. So I didn’t mention it.

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            What the state lacks evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that she was sufficiently sane to be held criminally liable at the time of the murders in the state of Massachusetts. That last bit is important because it’s the only state where the prosecution has to prove sanity rather than the defense having to prove insanity.

            Personally I suspect she’s not guilty by reason of insanity, but I’m not certain I’d feel that way beyond a reasonable doubt were I on the trial. And it seems a large portion of people are of the opinion neither side managed to clear the bar of reasonable doubt