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    16 days ago

    The QR/one time code way makes a lot more sense and avoids this issue

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        They’re already doing the verification and it’s not going away. I definitely prefer a better way to do it

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          That “it’s not going away” attitude is the fucking problem…

          We should fucking fight it, either by good or by bad, because that defeatism is what they want, they want us to think that TINA, then, little by little, force ourselves to do things that at first would seem unacceptable to us.

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            But in this case there’s already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing?

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              No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn’t something that needs to exist at all.

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                I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I’m not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better

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                  oh you can go and wish good lucks to yourself too, because you will need it if this becomes widely adopted

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                    Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that’s better is being implemented

                    So no luck needed for that at least

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                I mean I’d rather get crumbs than nothing? lol

                Just seems pragmatic to me

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                  Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs.

                  Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you.

                  This is not about getting.

                  This is about what you aim for to begin with.

                  If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger.

                  You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion.

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                    I’m getting the id system I was hoping for though. I’m getting my crumbs.

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                Wouldn’t that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing

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                    Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don’t know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo

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                I’m pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I’d never sent my id to random sites

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      That…doesn’t work. Just because you saw one dumb YouTuber say something doesn’t make it true.

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        I’m not sure if there’s some popular video you’re talking about but I’m talking about the EU ID proposal. Haven’t seen any videos about it