• cannedtuna@lemmy.worldOP
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      18 days ago

      We really didn’t. I’d upload a different version without that before and after if I’d found it

    • HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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      18 days ago

      I mean that’s literally how television shows showing similar format content worked back in the before times… Introduction, footage, commentary.

      Now this lady didn’t add all that much, but it’s a stretch to make this seem like an “influencer” thing…more a product of her time.

      Whippersnapper.

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        17 days ago

        That context was totally different. Broadcast TV is not just a collection isolated clips you can search for and pull up. But the internet is. And we could just get or share the clip direct from the source without it being edited and packaged into influencer content. Maybe it’s not simple or easy sometimes, but it’s usually possible.

        Those shows of the past were what you tuned into. On the internet, we can share direct pieces of video and audio and images with each other. The commentary is optional. On broadcast television, the context had to come from the packaging. On the internet we can provide text based context alongside the videoclip. We can organize it into a database. We can share it in specific contexts like communities.

        influencers packaging clips like this is different, and the person you replied to is correct. People can enjoy this woman fine and follow her for her commentary. But suggesting this is how we should share information because it’s how broadcast television worked before the internet is justifying something we don’t need to justify. And it’s doing so with an onerous comparison, in my opinion.

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          17 days ago

          But suggesting this is how we should share information because it’s how broadcast television worked before the internet

          Did I? I don’t think so.

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      17 days ago

      I get your point but this lady isn’t a random influencer. She has been diligently spreading awareness on a lot of fucked up things in the US for several years now and has a decent following. She’s doing what she can.

      • Doublenut@lemmy.zip
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        17 days ago

        I’m not disagreeing with you on her character (i dont know who this is), but you did just describe an influencer. Although now that I’m rereading your comment I realize you didn’t refute that she’s and influencer just not a ranom one. To add, I also understand that without her influence neither I, nor most of the commenters here would have seen this video and she acheives that by inserting her face to appease the algorithm.

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    17 days ago

    I was just thinking. All it would really take to get rid of Flock in a jurisdiction is one (1) cop with good intentions.

    Get Flock records of at least one family member for each person on the council, or the councilfolks themselves, print it all and bring that to the council meeting in front of everyone.

    I don’t think such a cop exists though, especially in the US.

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      17 days ago

      It’s difficult and at times dangerous going against the grain. It’s just easy to follow superiors and let this privacy nightmare happen.

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    I don’t know if this reverse psychology will work on elected officials, but what a great speech! The council folks may not be won over, but I would think audience members will notice. Increased attention like this has worked where I live, the officials in charge decided to not add in additional surveillance. The “top cop,” however, used language that seemed to me indicate they would pursue this in the future.

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    17 days ago

    So I had a speech class once in college where we were expected to give a persuasive speech with a visual aid. I chose to give a persuasive speech on online privacy rights and for the US to adopt a GDPR-like law, and my chosen visual aid was a dossier I drew up for every person in the class room (professor included) on their current and previous addresses, phone numbers, maiden names, schools, etc. that were all available to me online either directly through there name or through there spouse (the guy who was former military special ops and thus intentionally private online was surprised I found so much detail on him, but I was able to get it via his wife whose name I got from Facebook). It was incredibly effective.

    I propose we do the same thing for every city council member in the country where Flock has been allowed to invade our privacy. Buy their data from Flock and any other online source for that matter. Find all of their comings and goings, list dates and times, trips to dr appointments, places they shop and eat, where they live, where their kids go to school, who visits their home, where they travel, etc. For them and their immediate families. If they are uncomfortable with all of that information being publically available, then good! Don’t allow Flock to make it available! The fact that all of that information is being collected and tracked by anybody, let alone profit-driven corporations that will use that data and sell that data by any legal means to gain a buck (and plenty less than legal ways) should be uncomfortable, even scary.

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      17 days ago

      That’s just kinda how tiktok and YouTube work. Algorithms love bright faces talking loudly and reacting to videos.