• SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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    Publicity stunt. The home schooled red state Skeeters who are this band’s fan base will flood GoFundMe with their beer money.

    Conservatism. Grifting grifters grifting grifting grifters.

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    Being Christian in a field dominated by secular faux-Satanists is so metal that it wraps back around the other side and just becomes lame again.

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    To prove their point, included in the filing is an email from a person who spent $500 on top-tier tickets to a Demon Hunter concert in Albany, thinking they were purchasing admission to a KPop Demon Hunters event for their children, aged five and six.

    I kind of get it. It’s not like the movie has nothing to do with music.

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      Imagine spending $500 on something and not, idk looking at the fucking promo picture. Also, Demon Hunter is objectively better than Huntr/x.

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        Also, Demon Hunter is objectively better than Hunter/x

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        Christian Metal band

        I respect your opinion, but I doubt its accuracy.

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      Based on what I know of trademark law they have a case. Also, they have sue to protect their trade mark they can loose it.

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        They have a bit of a case, but not really because “demon hunter” is a generic term that predates their band by hundreds of years (LOL).

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          Trademark is not copyright or patent. Copyright and patents exist to protect the rights of a creator. Trademarks are more about provenance. It protects brands, but also protects consumers of those brands by preventing confusion.

          Trademarks are pretty specific. Dr Pepper’s trademark on sugary drinks isn’t infringed by a company selling black pepper because nobody will confuse the products.

          Wal-Mart can sell sodas that are similar to popular drinks like Mountain Dew and Dr Pepper, but they call them something like “Mountain Lightning” and “Dr Thunder”. They’re clearly meant to be similar products, but they’re also clearly not the name-brand stuff. But Walmart can’t start selling a knockoff low-calorie soda and call it “Low-Cal Dr Pepper” because it may mislead customers into thinking it’s related to Dr Pepper.

          And that’s essentially what’s being claimed here. The band has a trademark on Demon Hunters that specifically covers a band named Demon Hunters selling tickets for live music events. And while there’s going to be some understandable confusion given the popularity of the film, the band alleges that the concerts related to the film should be marketed differently. This is especially true when the band from the film already has a different established name.

          The commercialization of Christianity this band takes part in upsets me, but they may also be in the right here. They don’t want their fans buying tickets to a K-Pop show instead of theirs, and K-Pop fans will also be pretty upset when they buy tickets and go to a show only to get preached at.

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            Surely, consumers will be confused as fuck when they try to purchase a demon hunter service and they end up with some weird metal band.

            If anyone’s confusing the market it’s the band!

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              That’s exactly what trademark doesn’t cover. If it’s different industries with no overlap it’s fine.

              I have a Delta scroll saw at the house, and I’ve flown to Atlanta on Delta. They’re different companies sharing a name, but that’s okay because their products don’t overlap.

              A more interesting example is Apple. Apple Records and Apple Commputers got info a trademark kerfuffle in the 2000s when Apple Computers started selling music on iTunes.

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          Cool, the word “Queen” is generic so I should be able to start a band named that, no problem.

          Turns out that ‘generic term’ is contextual, and in fact many generic terms are trademark protected especially in the musical group area.

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          The term “demon hunter” has been in use for hundreds of years as a generic term but how long was it in use as a something related to music before the metal band Demon Hunter started using it?

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    To prove their point, included in the filing is an email from a person who spent $500 on top-tier tickets to a Demon Hunter concert in Albany, thinking they were purchasing admission to a KPop Demon Hunters event for their children, aged five and six. “Is their[sic] anyway to refund me or get me a credit or something[?]” the person wrote. “If I dont get it refunded I will not be able to purchase tickets to the actual ‘K pop demon hunters show’.”

    Okay first… That’s ridiculous that this parent paid $500 for tickets for their kids.

    Second, rough.

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      At $500/ticket, I’d assume they’re internationally famous…or maybe they’re doing the musical equivalent of transmorphers hoping to confuse grandma…

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    I’m concerned that children may have been exposed to Christian “metal”. That is a traumatic experience that can ruin your enjoyment of metal, rock, and live concerts in general.

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    I feel really bad for the mom that spent $500 for her kids to see huntrix. Poor kids must have been so disappointed.

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      That’s the thing, these guys are definitely dining out on the confusion. No “Christian metal” band is realistically charging $500 for vip tickets. Especially considering they only sold 600k records in the last 25 years and over +12 albums. They would be lucky enough to be hitting the state fair circuit.

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        At least two kids + two parents means four tickets total for 500$. I’m not too familiar with average US ticket prices, but 125$ per person doesn’t sound too far fetched even for a smaller band, considering all the upcharges they have on everything.

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          According to the court filing it was 3 tickets for a mother and two children, so a little over $165 a ticket. I checked the bands website and they just so happen to be coming to a small venue near me which I have frequented several times.

          This is a tiny venue which is usually frequented by small indie and cover bands, and the prices for this show are a lot higher than I’ve ever seen. Usually you can catch a show here for 20-30 bucks for an open floor ticket as there is no seating.

          They are charging $45 for general admission, but they also are selling access to a roped off section in front of the stage for nearly $200 a ticket. I haven’t actually ever heard of the venue ever doing this, and I don’t even know how they are going to enforce it. The venue is a small room that used to be an old timey movie theater that they ripped the seats out of. It’s small enough to where you wouldn’t really be able to have security on the floor separating the crowd, the total occupancy for the building is like 500 people and that would be packed to the gills.

          Either this band has a dedicated weird cult like following… Or they are taking an opportunity to eat out on this confusion.

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    Why sue? Just flip their desks and throw them out of the building. /s

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    Good. I hope it goes to trial, and they show that the monopoly Google is unfairly fucking with search results, as we all know they do, and some sort of regulation eventually comes from it.

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      Googles search rankings are fairly well understood and documented, though they are really punishing for smal sites. Thats why all the SEO crap works (for a short while at least, you get punished eventually for abusing the system).

      I despise the way they are ranking search results, but there is no secret fuckery at work

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      Please elaborate on how Google is changing the search rankings. I’ve worked with Google SEO for decades and I’ve never seen or heard of this. I’ve only seen people try to outsmart the system, and then years later are blacklisted for doing shady stuff. Nothing in the article even mentioned Google.

      But I’ve never heard of Google manually changing rankings. So you’re saying there’s a conspiracy to rank a Christian metal band from 20 years ago lower than a newly released movie/series with a similar name. Which just happens to be the most watched movie on Netflix.

      The system seems to be working exactly as intended. Fresh original relevant content to the top rankings.

      Why would someone expect the opposite? Why do you think Google is involved at all?

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    …idk fellas, ya might want to just leave this one to the Satanists. Stick with the Gregorian chanting and call it a day. Also stop fucking altar boys.